The teamsters have conferences all over the country, therefore, the retiree benefits differ across the county. Ideally, the retiree benefits would be the same across the board, but they are not.
Anyone who thinks UPS paid 6 billion to pull out of Central States, to provide benefits for UPS retirees only, which was in serious trouble financially, and is not trying to recoup some of the monies, doesn't understand the business world.
Ups will save millions over the life of this contract than they would off spent paying in to the cs plan. Ups has also agreed to a contract that runs through Aug of the year 2013, i think its ups that doesn't understand!
The comment was made by 705 Red, that this was not negotiated during the contract process. Unless he was part of the negotiating committee, how does he know that? Did 705 say that now that the increase has been sent out to the retirees?
Yes i was on the negotiating committee! And yea the letters have been sent out to the retirees, their money is due Feb 1st or their benefits will expire. That is one week from today.
Local 705 and 710 have always prided themselves on not being part of the National negotiations. Well maybe the negotiations were done on a National level with Hoffa and his staff, unbeknowst to the 705. It is a politcal world out there.
Especially take pride because our contract language that was changed was far better than what the national received under hoffa and his cronies!
And if Local 705 feels a strike is in order, then UPS might as well pull out of the Chicagoland area, as this would be damaging not only to our customers, but our union employees, as well.
If 705 feels a strike is in order, maybe its because ups has shown a total lack of respect for the contract that they have agreed to honor and work under for the next 5 years! 705 is not asking for anything outside of the contract and has agreed to live under this contract, its ups that is violating the contract.
There you go with the pull out of Chicago line again! You would expect us to lay down and watch our retiree's suffer because ups has failed to put some one competent in charge to run the Chicago area!
Chicago area brings in a very large part of ups's revenue, and we are still so busy were with the workload, that we are not affected by any lay offs! Drivers are still working over 9.5 and we have extra routes in on a daily basis!
UPS and the Union have always negotiated in the best interest of both organizations, as both have responsiblities to the union workers.
Under hoffa the contracts have favored ups more than the working man/woman! And still hoffa is changing already negotiated language, as in the new 9.5 that has been altered to fit ups's liking!
There have been posts noting that active Union employees have better benefits than non union employees at UPS. As non union employees have to pay for their benefits. However, we have accrued DDB's ( defined dollar benefits) over the years for our retirement benefits. Depending on your length of service and what you accrued over the years, depends on what your retired benefits will cost you. So far, I have not met any retiree who has any out of pocket expense, except for co-pays.
Come to Chicago, and meet with families of retiree's that are scrambling with little notice of such a huge change.
So maybe it's time for the union retirees to pay for their benefits that they have received at minimal cost over the years?
Ups had their chance to negotiate, now maybe it was lack of planning, a little incompetence on ups committee part, but you do not raise it that much unannounced!
Everyone should plan on paying for benefits, unless our new leader Barack Obama comes though with his campaign promise for affordable health care for every American, well then plan on your taxes going up. Tough world out there, times are a changing, and we're not living in our grandparents or parents world anymore. JMO