Volume shortage

[DOK]

They tell us overall volume is down but if someone calls in they have to cut a route Wednesday and Thursday because we don’t have any extras to cover it. Saturday they are begging people to volunteer and trying to force people in and it’s not working.

But what do they expect when people expect to work and they only do 2-3 days a week. People aren’t sticking around for it.

Back in the day we all stuck around

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Back in the day we all stuck around

Unfortunately this job isn't the premium job it used to be for new hires.
Plus we're also dealing with it new generation of instant gratification

 

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Unfortunately this job isn't the premium job it used to be for new hires.
Plus we're also dealing with it new generation of instant gratification

Just gotta adapt and act like them.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just gotta adapt and act like them.

No this job has changed a lot over the decades and unfortunately many of the new people do not want to go driving.
And with so many other places raising their starting wages UPS isn't attractive is it used to be but on the other hand these people don't realize how much our benefits cost and what they are worth to them.
Not too many jobs have a pension plan anymore and especially if you are part-time

 

[JustDeliverIt]

What state are you in?

NY. Buffalo building

 

[JustDeliverIt]

Back in the day we all stuck around

I get that to an extent. If you got hired as a driver, even as a T-S driver, you expect to work T-S. People got bills to pay, and when they get dicked around they quit. Can’t blame them. Can’t take a second job because they want to give this one a honest chance then don’t get the hours.

The money/benefits/pension can be worth it in the long run but they aren’t giving people the chance make it a lot of times.

 

[UnionStrong]

I get that to an extent. If you got hired as a driver, even as a T-S driver, you expect to work T-S. People got bills to pay, and when they get dicked around they quit. Can’t blame them. Can’t take a second job because they want to give this one a honest chance then don’t get the hours.

The money/benefits/pension can be worth it in the long run but they aren’t giving people the chance make it a lot of times.

At least when I started I worked 9 months and collected unemployment for 3. After 2 1/2 years I got on the seniority list. 2 year progression and done. Today, I can’t imagine putting up with the BS they put guys thru.

 

[PT Car Washer]

At least when I started I worked 9 months and collected unemployment for 3. After 2 1/2 years I got on the seniority list. 2 year progression and done. Today, I can’t imagine putting up with the BS they put guys thru.

2 year progression? 90 days when I started.

 

[JustDeliverIt]

At least when I started I worked 9 months and collected unemployment for 3. After 2 1/2 years I got on the seniority list. 2 year progression and done. Today, I can’t imagine putting up with the BS they put guys thru.

That’s it as well. Took me 10+ years as a Pt to get a chance to drive. Then a 4 year progression so almost 15 years to get to top rate. But I knew what this place was.

They hire these people off the street and it’s culture shock. They get coddled for the first week or two, then treated like everyone else. Once they qualify, work 2 or 3 days a week. Until vacations hit, then we need you 6 days. Then wonder why no one inside wants to drive and off the street hires don’t stay.

 

[UnionStrong]

That’s it as well. Took me 10+ years as a Pt to get a chance to drive. Then a 4 year progression so almost 15 years to get to top rate. But I knew what this place was.

They hire these people off the street and it’s culture shock. They get coddled for the first week or two, then treated like everyone else. Once they qualify, work 2 or 3 days a week. Until vacations hit, then we need you 6 days. Then wonder why no one inside wants to drive and off the street hires don’t stay.

It’s ridiculous. I never even worked part time, I was an off the street casual. But we could work most of the year back then. I seldom missed a full week from April through peak.

 

[PT Car Washer]

It’s ridiculous. I never even worked part time, I was an off the street casual. But we could work most of the year back then. I seldom missed a full week from April through peak.

Off the street hire. That explains a lot of your elitist attitude.

 

[UnionStrong]

Off the street hire. That explains a lot of your elitist attitude.

Never played a day in the minors, suckah. Driver from day one. I don’t know where you come up with the name elitist, I worked harder than you do. I just didn’t have to grovel as a part timer. But you’re just full of nonsensical statements.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Never played a day in the minors, suckah.

Born with a silver foot in your mouth.

 

[UnionStrong]

Born with a silver foot in your mouth.

Yep

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Never played a day in the minors, suckah. Driver from day one. I don’t know where you come up with the name elitist, I worked harder than you do. I just didn’t have to grovel as a part timer. But you’re just full of nonsensical statements.

Were you one of the off the street supervisor hires?

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

No this job has changed a lot over the decades and unfortunately many of the new people do not want to go driving.
And with so many other places raising their starting wages UPS isn't attractive is it used to be but on the other hand these people don't realize how much our benefits cost and what they are worth to them.
Not too many jobs have a pension plan anymore and especially if you are part-time

Most youngsters and people in general now are very short sighted and don’t get the big picture then wonder why they remain begging for scraps.

 

[UnionStrong]

Were you one of the off the street supervisor hires?

I don’t think so junior.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Most youngsters and people in general now are very short sighted and don’t get the big picture then wonder why they remain begging for scraps.

Especially when kids are supporting lifestyles by just getting on tiktok and flailing around like a mongoloid. The future is now old man, better snap to or you’re going to be left behind.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

I don’t think so junior.

Well congratulations

 

[UnionStrong]

Well congratulations

That’s a long time ago. I started in 1990