To all the APWA cheerleaders? Have you guys just gone down the river? From what I recall you guys were all for the teamsters losing control of CS and now that this is occurring and UPS is bailing it out - its Ron Carey was a hero! Were you guys just looking for anything opposite the IBT could do? I strongly feel that if Hoffa would have said no to UPS leaving (which I've heard was impossible anyway, UPS could opt out regardless), that you guys would do the opposite. Same goes for the TDU cheerleaders. Its very hard to take either remotely seriously when it seems you guys will just bash Hoffa no matter what choice is made by our current leadership. I'm still voting no because of my own reasons (ex. the shaft the part timers got on the pay raises versus the full timers, and split raises? get bent), I could give a crap about the pension because I am not trusting anyone but my self for retirement. Thoughts?