What would it take?

[Serf]

Sorry, bud. NO hourly at FedEx is overpaid for their "unskilled labor'. Put the Kool-Aid down.

Let me be clearer. No disrespect to anyone. But I am hard pressed to put reading a map, driving a van, and doing small amounts of paper work into a skilled labor category. Men and Women who spend 3-5 years as an apprentice learning how to be a plumber or electrician would be a more accurate description for the term. And I'm not much into Kool-Aid, better luck with bourbon.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Well that is also always the next talking point that employees bring up. "UPS gets this, and that." We are underpaid relative to our UPS counterparts? Respectfully disagree. For the select few full time couriers who do have a full route that take every bit of 12 hours to complete, than yes you are being underpaid, especially when you factor in certain time commitments etc.
Is there another stance to take other than always comparing the major competitor? I think alot of folks would admit that the two companies are totally different beasts. Cut-throat corporations have always operated with there best interests in mind. And yet we act surprised when the individual gets a raw deal.
So in order to better absorb the blow just ask yourself:
Useless healthcare is still healthcare, better than NO healthcare.
Portable Pension instead of NO pension is still something.
Decent match on 401k instead of NO match on 401k
Job security, instead of annual furloughs and lay-offs.

I smell a schill in the making.

 

[hypo hanna]

Let me be clearer. No disrespect to anyone. But I am hard pressed to put reading a map, driving a van, and doing small amounts of paper work into a skilled labor category. Men and Women who spend 3-5 years as an apprentice learning how to be a plumber or electrician would be a more accurate description for the term. And I'm not much into Kool-Aid, better luck with bourbon.

That may be where the bar is set today, but that's not the way it was when I started. A good courier could do way more then that. He/She could safely and efficiently work around just about any obstacle on the fly saving service. They would over time develop almost a sixth sense anticipating issues long before they become a problem. I've dispatched every kind of driver there is and let me tell you, those kind of employees are real money makers for fedex. Now since the company treats them like crap like every other hourly, and does not value their skills, they just do the minimum in return.

 

[Mr. 7]

A good courier could do way more then that. He/She could safely and efficiently work around just about any obstacle on the fly saving service. They would over time develop almost a sixth sense anticipating issues long before they become a problem. I've dispatched every kind of driver there is and let me tell you, those kind of employees are real money makers for fedex. Now since the company treats them like crap like every other hourly, and does not value their skills, they just do the minimum in return.

That's me.

 

[Cactus]

Companies like Target and other national chains have cut out benefits for part timers. In lieu of this, Fedex has mostly a part time work force and has changed there plan to what amounts to more or less a "catastrophic care plan". Instead of cutting you out all together.
Lastly, at least at my station. There is so much seniority. We have over 15 employees with 25 years and 5 with over 30. It's no secret they make more money then the managers! Buy them out, in addition to senior managers. It's a great gesture. The only downside to it is the people left behind. Who will have seen the "old guard" go. Routes get cut, pay scales, eliminated, and 2-3 part timers fill 1 full timers old slot. Like it or not Fedex still overpays you for your unskilled labor. If it were any different, the respected individual would leave and move on if they could.

Comparing us to Target?? How about comparing Corvettes to Yugos?

And you think we're overpaid? Your probably sent here from Memphis as shill #2 since your buddy Dano doesn't seem to be working out too well for them.

And for your information we earn every penny and then some. FedEx is getting a hell of a great deal.

 

[DRAisawesome]

Yes we aren't skilled labor as my roommate makes 30+ hr as an electrician. But the avg hourly wage in the US is 23+. FedEx used to be avg to above avg. So to say we are overpaid is a silly statement. All I want is a fair handshake.

 

[MrFedEx]

Let me be clearer. No disrespect to anyone. But I am hard pressed to put reading a map, driving a van, and doing small amounts of paper work into a skilled labor category. Men and Women who spend 3-5 years as an apprentice learning how to be a plumber or electrician would be a more accurate description for the term. And I'm not much into Kool-Aid, better luck with bourbon.

I notice that you're a shuttle driver, which is a much easier job than a courier. It would appear your head is directly up your butt since you've never even been a courier. A "good" courier is definitely skilled labor, but not in the sense of a plumber or electrician, who both make way more than any of us, even as an apprentice. I think you need to have a bit more respect for the courier job, and then get yourself a clue about just how underpaid they are relative to the competition over at UPS.

When you're able to extract yourself, let me know, OK?

 

[CJinx]

Please. You deliver things via automobile. The guy that delivered my pizza last night has the same qualifications as you and gets paid even less. The competition gets paid more because they have a union. If they didn't, they'd likely be making the same bank that you do.

 

[DontThrowPackages]

Please. You deliver things via automobile. The guy that delivered my pizza last night has the same qualifications as you and gets paid even less. The competition gets paid more because they have a union. If they didn't, they'd likely be making the same bank that you do.

And most of us have the same qualifications as these stock brokers who lose your money. Whats your Point? A guy working on a oil rig is unskilled labor, should he work for minimum wage? Dont let Rush brain wash you into thinking just because you do a job that doesn't require a degree, that its somehow meaningless and deserving of minimum wage. If you think about it, cops and fire fighters are "Unskilled" labor. I have friends who went straight from the military into these professions....no degree. Tired of the unskilled labor card. BS.

 

[bbsam]

And most of us have the same qualifications as these stock brokers who lose your money. Whats your Point? A guy working on a oil rig is unskilled labor, should he work for minimum wage? Dont let Rush brain wash you into thinking just because you do a job that doesn't require a degree, that its somehow meaningless and deserving of minimum wage. If you think about it, cops and fire fighters are "Unskilled" labor. I have friends who went straight from the military into these professions....no degree. Tired of the unskilled labor card. BS.

Yes, but you still show up everyday for a job where Fred insists on underpaying you. Why? Because if you don't, Fred will replace you with the "next man up". Even with all the problems that can cause, it doesn't seem like they will change direction anytime soon because it's still profitable. Isn't that basically the definition of "unskilled labor"?

 

[Serf]

That may be where the bar is set today, but that's not the way it was when I started. A good courier could do way more then that. He/She could safely and efficiently work around just about any obstacle on the fly saving service. They would over time develop almost a sixth sense anticipating issues long before they become a problem. I've dispatched every kind of driver there is and let me tell you, those kind of employees are real money makers for fedex. Now since the company treats them like crap like every other hourly, and does not value their skills, they just do the minimum in return.

And that is wonderful. A Hard working, reliable, employee. Who over time learned his or her position well enough to produce like that. Try putting "over time I developed almost a sixth sense anticipating issues long before they became a problem" on a resume for a job. Then tell your new potential employer that you stopped producing because you felt you were being treated like crap. I'm just going to do the bare minimum! wahhhhh.

 

[Serf]

I notice that you're a shuttle driver, which is a much easier job than a courier. It would appear your head is directly up your butt since you've never even been a courier. A "good" courier is definitely skilled labor, but not in the sense of a plumber or electrician, who both make way more than any of us, even as an apprentice. I think you need to have a bit more respect for the courier job, and then get yourself a clue about just how underpaid they are relative to the competition over at UPS.

When you're able to extract yourself, let me know, OK?

Yes, proudly not a courier. I work M-friend, 35 hrs a week, and managers aren't app my rear about stops, signatures, and timelines. Came to fedex as a good second job. Then discovered that UPS had a forum for all of the Fedex employees to complain in. I could not help but join in to give my opinions. How can you be underpaid when you compare yourself directly to UPS? They are two totally different things.

 

[Serf]

And most of us have the same qualifications as these stock brokers who lose your money. Whats your Point? A guy working on a oil rig is unskilled labor, should he work for minimum wage? Dont let Rush brain wash you into thinking just because you do a job that doesn't require a degree, that its somehow meaningless and deserving of minimum wage. If you think about it, cops and fire fighters are "Unskilled" labor. I have friends who went straight from the military into these professions....no degree. Tired of the unskilled labor card. BS.

Working on an oil rig is actually quite profitable even as an apprentice. Then moving up to an engineer. Factor in being in the middle of the ocean, and being gone for 30-45 days at a time. Deserving of a higher wage to recruit people willing to adapt to that lifestyle. The way America is set up presently there are only several professions that do not require a degree to earn good money. After I left the Army and had a stint in the law enforcement world I would not exactly put them in the unskilled labor category either. Training literally never stops. And things change constantly on the job. And in lieu of a college degree there Military service opened the door into another opportunity to protect and serve.

 

[Cactus]

Yes, proudly not a courier. I work M-friend, 35 hrs a week, and managers aren't app my rear about stops, signatures, and timelines. Came to fedex as a good second job. Then discovered that UPS had a forum for all of the Fedex employees to complain in. I could not help but join in to give my opinions. How can you be underpaid when you compare yourself directly to UPS? They are two totally different things.

You just don't 'get it' do you?

 

[Serf]

Please. You deliver things via automobile. The guy that delivered my pizza last night has the same qualifications as you and gets paid even less. The competition gets paid more because they have a union. If they didn't, they'd likely be making the same bank that you do.

Sure do. I show up day in and day out to perform my unskilled labor with a smile on my face. Knowing I am paid higher than most, I have a care plan, and even a PPA retirement which is basically a glorified severance check. After 25 years I plan to buy a Harley with it. Then take my 401k plan, roll it into an annuity and travel the world. All for moving box's and going to the airport. Sweet second job.

 

[Cactus]

Please. You deliver things via automobile. The guy that delivered my pizza last night has the same qualifications as you and gets paid even less. The competition gets paid more because they have a union. If they didn't, they'd likely be making the same bank that you do.

I'll bet you couldn't hack as a courier. Everything looks easy from a nice cushy office, doesn't it?

 

[Serf]

I'll bet you couldn't hack as a courier. Everything looks easy from a nice cushy office, doesn't it?

My view is from a grumman on the way to the airport.

 

[Serf]

You just don't 'get it' do you?

And what? In order to be qualified to utilize this forum I have to be a courier, and united in misery?

 

[DontThrowPackages]

Yes, but you still show up everyday for a job where Fred insists on underpaying you. Why? Because if you don't, Fred will replace you with the "next man up". Even with all the problems that can cause, it doesn't seem like they will change direction anytime soon because it's still profitable. Isn't that basically the definition of "unskilled labor"?

Specialists, especially plastic surgeons, are at the high end pay scale in the medical field. Yet general practitioners seem to feel they're not paid what they're worth. If they chose to leave, someone from India is there wait to take their place....next man up. For your tit there's always a tat.

 

[Serf]

Specialists, especially plastic surgeons, are at the high end pay scale in the medical field. Yet general practitioners seem to feel they're not paid what they're worth. If they chose to leave, someone from India is there wait to take their place....next man up. For your tit there's always a tat.

Complete broad stroke statement. And totally arbitrary. Are you a subject matter expert on this? So let us speculate. A highly educated surgeon, with a world class skill is paid well. But a general M.D. or physicians assistant who is also well educated is secretly living in fear that a foreign national is coming to take there job? This isn't the 1-800 hotline you call for Dell or Toshiba when your PC has a virus and Rajiv from Mumbai answers. (Not intended to offend anyone)