OK, I realize there are those who never get affected by bad mgrs or who's spouse has a decent job so they're satisfied with what they have. Some of us have experienced some pretty bad things from bad mgrs. Lies to get me to transfer to their location, cheating customers and putting me in the middle of it, explosive tempers, etc. There's a good chance the national fraud hotline was started after I posted on another site how my mgrs were cheating customers. And then there were the years in the 90's with no top out raise. I should've held out, but I quit in '97, rehired in '98. I and 10's of thousands of others have had to settle for much less. Oh they promised repeatedly that they were looking at improving midrange pay, but never did. I transferred more than most, and as late as 2013 I was hearing mgrs tell newhires that they'd top out in 7 to 8 years. Bald faced lie. So why stay through all that? I was hanging in there for the traditional pension which of course they terminated in 2008 after giving us a "choice" whether to stay in the traditional pension or go into the portable pension. The "choice" was a deception to get as many as possible to voluntarily move into the new pension. Those who voluntarily did so didn't get the extra 4% a year the rest of us got who were forced into the new pension. And at the same time the economy tanked and there weren't many options out there. For me personally in 2011 had a stint put into my "widow maker" artery. You mention about the benefits but if that had happened to me now the bill would've had me declaring bankruptcy. Our medical is a far cry from what it used to be. Glad you're happy with your FedEx experience, but I for one have repeatedly been lied to and cheated. And yet I've been tops in productivity in most of the places I've worked, and have transferred into some incredibly heavy, absolutely insane routes. I held up my end of the bargain and it has been extremely disappointing and at times infuriating that the company that claims it's a people company didn't hold up their end in spite of their many promises, especially given how hard I worked for what I got. At the end of the day they're just another company that lies and cheats to enrich themselves, and we're supposed to just be thankful they gave us a job. These kind of people used to raid and pillage, rape and murder to get their gold. Now they just use a pen.