2020 Presidential Updates

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.

In a separate state case in Montgomery County, Pa., a judge asked Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein whether he was alleging fraud. “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?” To which Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”

In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa., Trump’s attorneys signed a joint stipulation of facts that explicitly admits that they are not alleging fraud. “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety” in connection with the challenged ballots.

In a state case concerning votes in Maricopa County, Ariz., Trump lawyers again dodged and weaved. On Nov. 12, the same day that the President himself was tweeting about hundreds of thousands of votes being stolen from him, a Trump campaign attorney Kory Langhofer told a judge, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We are not alleging anyone stealing the election.”

Lawyers representing Trump’s campaign sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr on Nov. 5 alleging “criminal voter fraud” in Nevada. But lawyers representing Trump never made that allegation in court filings.

Chief Justice Timothy Kenny of the Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan rejected fraud allegations, saying in his ruling that the "plaintiffs' interpretation of events is incorrect , not credible and evidence free".
So they're not alleging fraud in cases that are not about fraud. Shocking!
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
It’s an article by a principled republican asking why they should continue to engage with the lunatic conspiracy theorists that are currently running the party.
For the past four years, half the country refused to accept the legitimacy of the election.

That will not change over the next four years and you need to come to terms with that fact.

Deal with it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Think the Democrats are screaming because what's being claimed in the press conferences is not what's being claimed in the courts.
you generally have to wait for the court cases to be heard and the evidence presented before you claim victory
 

The big package

Well-Known Member
#notmymolester
#molesterinchief
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The big package

Well-Known Member
All my predictions are coming it's true sooner than I expected with the red wave that just took place and Andrea Ocasio-Cortez already making radical demands to the Biden administration The heat is already on in 2022. It's going to be a bigger red wave . And I believe people are going to be blown away California is going to have its first Republican governor in decades !!! ( Of course this is all assuming that Trump does not win these court cases which I believe he absolutely should and will ) !!!
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
It will be so refreshing to once again have an adult in charge.
1.The left are the greatest pretenders. Their denial of truth swings from stupidity to sad.
2.The propaganda machine is owned and ran by the left media. It is so biased that balanced thinking Americans see them as irrelevant.
3.Because America was built on rejecting the common cause and narrative you push. The loons and hucksters the left has locked hands with are nothing more than socialist commies.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
1.The left are the greatest pretenders. Their denial of truth swings from stupidity to sad.
2.The propaganda machine is owned and ran by the left media. It is so biased that balanced thinking Americans see them as irrelevant.
3.Because America was built on rejecting the common cause and narrative you push. The loons and hucksters the left has locked hands with are nothing more than socialist commies.
Do you know what National Review is? It is not leftist media.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.

In a separate state case in Montgomery County, Pa., a judge asked Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein whether he was alleging fraud. “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?” To which Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”

In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa., Trump’s attorneys signed a joint stipulation of facts that explicitly admits that they are not alleging fraud. “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety” in connection with the challenged ballots.

In a state case concerning votes in Maricopa County, Ariz., Trump lawyers again dodged and weaved. On Nov. 12, the same day that the President himself was tweeting about hundreds of thousands of votes being stolen from him, a Trump campaign attorney Kory Langhofer told a judge, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We are not alleging anyone stealing the election.”

Lawyers representing Trump’s campaign sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr on Nov. 5 alleging “criminal voter fraud” in Nevada. But lawyers representing Trump never made that allegation in court filings.

Chief Justice Timothy Kenny of the Third Judicial Circuit Court of Michigan rejected fraud allegations, saying in his ruling that the "plaintiffs' interpretation of events is incorrect , not credible and evidence free".
I don't see sources cited and since you guys lie all the time I'll wait for court results from ongoing cases.
 
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