2020 Presidential Updates
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The big package
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The people here in the United States voted And we all decided that they don't care what you people in Russia think Vladimir . They like freedom , prosperity and peace something your presidents could not achieve !!!
They did, didn’t they? LOL
DriveInDriѵeOut
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refineryworker05
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Democrats introduced legislation to secure voting because they were concerned about outside interference from Russia. You know Russia that just hacked the federal government. Democrats were also concerned about what they describe as voter suppression efforts by republicans and wanted to make voting easier in all states for all voters, and they wanted the increased mailed ballots to get sent out to voters, returned and counted. Nothing like this fantasyland bs coming from trump and republicans.
if Republican voters really believed their votes don’t count, they wouldn’t vote, what’s the point of voting if you believe your vote won’t be counted and the election will be stolen? Because in reality Republican voters do believe their votes are counted and they don’t believe that elections are stolen, that’s why they’ll continue to vote. They are only pretending to believe that insane bs to justify overturning an election their preferred candidate loses.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Well it didn't work for Trump but....
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Pelosi Appears to Abandon Attempted Election Steal in Iowa, Will Seat GOP Winner
Scheme.
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El Correcto
god is dead
No they didn’t, they sent out millions of unsolicited ballots and sent out harvesters.
They were not making it easier for people to vote; they were making it easier to disenfranchise the people who did vote.
refineryworker05
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Who is they? Where did they send out these ballots? What are harvesters? And where were the harvesters sent? How is sending out ballots disenfranchising anyone? This is the kind of insane stuff republicans have to pretend to believe.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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The majority of Americans do not believe we have free and fair elections.
refineryworker05
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this isn’t true based on polling of that question. But Republican voters do not believe this. If they did, they’d stop voting. If elections aren’t free or fair, that means the outcome is decided and your vote is meaningless. Again if republican voters really believed this, the only logical thing to do is to stop voting, stop giving a throughly corrupt process the patina of legitimacy by participating. But republicans are only pretending to believe elections are fraud ridden to justify over turning an election their preferred candidates lose
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Yes it is.
refineryworker05
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No it’s not. Tracking Voter Trust in the American Electoral System
Sixty-three percent of voters overall say the 2020 election was free and fair, but 68 percent of Republicans say it was not. Sixty-eight percent of GOP voters say that mail-in voting led to widespread fraud, 30 percentage points higher than the share of all voters who said the same. Sixty-two percent of voters say Trump’s losses in recent court cases are due to insufficient evidence, but 56 percent of Republicans say it’s because those courts are biased against him.
It’s Official: The Election Was Secure
These government officials, judges, and elected leaders, overwhelmingly Republican, have publicly acknowledged confidence in the November election.
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
- “We have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail or otherwise.” – Christopher Wray, FBI Director, September 24, 2020, hearing before the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. (Director Wray was appointed by President Trump in 2017.)
Department of Homeland Security – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)
- “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history . . . . There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised . . . While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections . . . we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too.” – Joint Statement by CISA, the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC), and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC), November 12, 2020.
- “[Election] Day was quiet. There was no indication or evidence that there was any evidence of hacking or compromise of election systems on, before, or after November 3 . . . . We did a good job. I would do it one thousand times over.” – Chris Krebs, Former Director of CISA, November 29, 2020.
Department of Justice (DOJ)
- “To date, [DOJ investigators] have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” – Attorney General William Barr, December 1, 2020, announcement.
Richard Pilger, head of the DOJ’s Election Crimes branch, responded to the move by stepping down from his position. Twenty-three Democratic attorneys general signed a letter expressing confidence that “any such investigations will not succeed in overturning the election’s outcome,” but criticizing the move for exacting “the terrible cost of undermining trust in the democratic institutions on which this country depends.” In another critical letter, 16 U.S. attorneys who track election malfeasance noted that the “policy change was not based in fact” and confirmed that in their jurisdictions there was no evidence of substantial election irregularities.
U.S. Election Assistance Commission
- “Time and time again, when the rubber hits the road, there's no evidence — whether that's in court cases, whether that's in the presidential commission that was created in 2017 to find the alleged non-citizens fraud after the 2016 election that cost, in his mind, the president the popular vote, but found nothing and disbanded in embarrassment, or academic studies. We never see evidence of widespread voter fraud. And there's no indicators that 2020 will be different in that regard.” – Benjamin Hovland, Commissioner of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, Business Insider, November 12, 2020
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Yes it is.
I'm guessing today was officially barr's last day...
Here we go...
justthenews.com
Here we go...
Emails obtained by FBI detail how Hunter Biden landed Ukrainian gas gig in 2014
Memos show concerted strategy to leverage VP Joe Biden's trip to Kiev to score Burisma Holdings deal.
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Voting machine company executive sues Trump allies for defamation
"An executive for a voting machine company that has been the target of conspiracy theories in the aftermath of Donald Trump's 2020 election loss and been baselessly accused of swinging the results against the President is suing his campaign and conservative media figures for defamation.
Trump has called Dominion Voting Systems "a disaster," and his supporters have pushed the conspiracy theory that the company deleted votes for Trump on its voting equipment and that Dominion's director of product strategy and security, Eric Coomer, helped subvert the election.
There is no evidence that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, and his administration and election officials have called it the "most secure" election in US history. President-elect Joe Biden won the popular vote by more than 7 million votes and the electoral map 306 to 232.
The lawsuit names as defendants the Trump campaign, Rudy Giuliani, Trump adviser Sidney Powell, conservative media outlets One America News Network and Newsmax Media, the right-wing website Gateway Pundit, and Colorado businessman and activist Joseph Oltmann, among others. CNN has reached out to those named in the lawsuit.
In recent days -- as the threat of legal action loomed larger -- several conservative media outlets have begun backtracking some of the more outrageous claims."
"An executive for a voting machine company that has been the target of conspiracy theories in the aftermath of Donald Trump's 2020 election loss and been baselessly accused of swinging the results against the President is suing his campaign and conservative media figures for defamation.
Trump has called Dominion Voting Systems "a disaster," and his supporters have pushed the conspiracy theory that the company deleted votes for Trump on its voting equipment and that Dominion's director of product strategy and security, Eric Coomer, helped subvert the election.
There is no evidence that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, and his administration and election officials have called it the "most secure" election in US history. President-elect Joe Biden won the popular vote by more than 7 million votes and the electoral map 306 to 232.
The lawsuit names as defendants the Trump campaign, Rudy Giuliani, Trump adviser Sidney Powell, conservative media outlets One America News Network and Newsmax Media, the right-wing website Gateway Pundit, and Colorado businessman and activist Joseph Oltmann, among others. CNN has reached out to those named in the lawsuit.
In recent days -- as the threat of legal action loomed larger -- several conservative media outlets have begun backtracking some of the more outrageous claims."
So what. You should follow this trial if it gets there, because at that point all the true facts will be released.
Uh huh. LOL
oldngray
nowhere special
That lawsuit will be dropped like a hot potato when it comes to discovery time.
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