2023 contract

[DriveInDriveOut]

this is basically one of the two serious options being considered right now

And the other?

 

[Thebrownblob]

And the other?

Scrapping 22. Four and using regular package car drivers permanently. The company cannot decide to use part timers.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Scrapping 22. Four and using regular package car drivers permanently. The company cannot decide to use part timers.

Okay and what does the company get out of this? A wage freeze?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Scrapping 22. Four and using regular package car drivers permanently. The company cannot decide to use part timers.

No no no, 22.4 will work part of their day in the building and part of their day driving.....

Honestly, go back and look at the posts on here defending 22.4 during the last contract talks....

If you want a good laugh.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

No emotion, i’m just telling you it won’t be on the table. I agree with you there’s lots of problems. Giving this company any sort of wiggle room to use lesser drivers Will not help that,as the last four years have proven.
Don’t be upset at people who man sacrificed and given their time Blood sweat and tears to keep these jobs full-time. There is some emotion in that.

I can accept that about it being emotional for some people, but they should just state their feelings, then bow out so people can discuss the issue dispassionately and maybe come up with a workable solution that we can run up the chain.

I wouldn't count on the idea not being on the table. That's why we need to be prepared to counter with something better and get the most out of the leverage the situation gives us, and to avoid getting backed into a corner and either forced to strike of give concessions.

The problem we face is that splitting the schedules between m-friend, T-s and S-Th is that it will create overlaps and we'll have too many drivers tues -thursday and not enough Friday - Monday. Which will lead to forced extra punches on the weekends and lay offs during the week. That's clearly unacceptable. Plus, it put's 2/3's of all drivers working a weekend day. Having 1/3 working Saturday was the entire reason for the 22.4 debacle.

One way to even out the work load/employees to do it would be to create a Friday -Momday schedule, which would have to be 4 10 hr days. That would drive it up to 75% of drivers working weekends.

Now, the above sounds pretty crappy, and PT Weekend drivers are unacceptable, so what other options do we have? How about make the weekend drivers a full time position, with a definite schedule on Sat and Sunday, and cover driving during the week. With added language increasing the number of people who can request off to the point of being able to accommodate full time hours for the weekend guys. If that doesn't get them to full time hours, they can bump into the inside work.

This is all.hypothetical, we can ask for anything we want here. Maybe we can even come up with a goid idea or two.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Your little plan is laughable use seniority to decide which days you work the more seniority you have the better days you get to work

That plan caused 22.4. Good luck.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Okay and what does the company get out of this? A wage freeze?

From what I understand the company is ready to scrap it, what they may try to get out of it I don’t know. I will say it is one of the strikable issues in Sean O’ Brians Arsenal. If the people want it gone he will stand behind them.

 

[DELACROIX]

And the other?

Probably permanent nonunion PVDs...all year long...

It is called in some circles... (Flexibility)...

 

[Thebrownblob]

Probably permanent nonunion PVDs...all year long...

It is called in some circles... (Flexibility)...

The company would love that

 

[TearsInRain]

And the other?

scrapping 22.4's and just getting some extreme scheduling concessions for FT drivers

 

[zubenelgenubi]

scrapping 22.4's and just getting some extreme scheduling concessions for FT drivers

That's pretty much what I was saying, there's only so much you can do with scheduling. I mean, if a week was 10 days instead of seven, this would all be so much easier.

My vote is full time cover drivers that are anchored on the week ends, then fill in during the week.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

That's pretty much what I was saying, there's only so much you can do with scheduling. I mean, if a week was 10 days instead of seven, this would all be so much easier.

My vote is full time cover drivers that are anchored on the week ends, then fill in during the week.

This is what I never understood about using 22.4 on Saturdays. You should be paying people more to work Saturdays not less.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

You do not understand how hard we fought to get full-time jobs we are not going to let that piss away this contract
Just because somebody does not want to work on a Saturday.
Put your time in move up on a list and things get better

Lol. Fool.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

It was funny that a few months ago they were talking about giving you the dispatch you want now the people that are working are doing 12 hours…..

Two words- Feed Ers

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Okay and what does the company get out of this? A wage freeze?

Uh oh- worried about losing your contract violating gig?.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

This is what I never understood about using 22.4 on Saturdays. You should be paying people more to work Saturdays not less.

Strongest labor union in the WORLD. Lol.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Two words- Feed Ers

Many do

 

[PT Car Washer]

Uh oh- worried about losing your contract violating gig?.

I just work as directed. Not my fault the company can't get delivery drivers to come to work when scheduled.

 

[Gman33909]

No more concessions, no tues-sat, wed-sun. If you work Saturday or Sunday it's double time

 

[zubenelgenubi]

No more concessions, no tues-sat, wed-sun. If you work Saturday or Sunday it's double time

So fill the weekends with 6th and 7th punchers? Or no weekend work?