Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BucsGuy, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:37 AM.

  1. BucsGuy

    BucsGuy Member

    outside hire in late September. Drove all peak season. Was told this morning I’ll fall under the 22.4 driver category. My question is, isn’t this the same as a cover driver?
  2. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Now you're a 22.4 cover.
  3. BucsGuy

    BucsGuy Member

    Do you know where I can read more about it?
  4. It means you will do the same job but for less money than a regular driver.
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  5. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    "Section 4. Full-time Wages For Article 22.4(b) Jobs
    Part-time employees whose rates are higher than those set forth below
    who bid into a full-time 22.4(b) job covered by this Section shall be
    paid their current inside wage rate plus the general wage increases.
    Other part-time employees who bid into a full-time 22.4(b) job
    covered by this Section will be red circled at their current wage rate
    until such time as the calculated progression rate set forth below
    exceeds that rate. The transfer date will become his/her full-time start
    date for purposes of applying the progression set forth below. A part-
    time employee shall not lose the red circle protection provided by this
    paragraph as a result of transferring from a 22.4(b) job to a full-time
    inside job covered by either Article 22.2 or 22.3.
    Start $20.50
    Twelve (12) months $21.25
    Twenty-Four (24) months $22.75
    Thirty-Six (36) months $25.00
    Forty-Eight (48) months Top Rate
    The Top Rate shall be $30.64 plus the general wage increases provided
    in Section 1 above.
    Any part-time employee performing package car cover-type work in
    a Supplement, Rider or Addendum who bids into a 22.4 driver job
    will be treated the same as if he entered into a regular package car
    driver job under Article 41, Section 2 (c) for progression credit and
    red circle purposes."
    Plus you don't get 9.5 protection
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  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    How you gonna fall under 22.4 if we are still working under a contract that doesn’t have 22.4?
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    So he works for fedex?
  8. He will still make more money than they do.
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I think they’re both on the 10 year progression program now.
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  10. Delivery!!!

    Delivery!!! Member

    What were you hired as in late September?
  11. eats packages

    eats packages Started from the top (shelf)

    Nope lol 22.4 does not exist until contract is ratified and you are already a true, vested FT driver without a bid route (yet).
  12. BucsGuy

    BucsGuy Member

    I don’t think so. Because today my route was cut. And I went home
  13. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    Just because it isn't in the contract yet doesn't mean ups can't do it. Like personal vehicle delivery
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  14. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    No, it's even worse.
  15. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    What route? You at best, are a newbie split driver.
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  17. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

  18. The Range

    The Range In too deep

    That's my question - full time 6 for 1 lists up right now. For those who sign and get on before the new contract is "in effect" - are they real drivers or fake 22.4 drivers?
  19. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    Your either a PT cover driver (on call M-S, guaranteed 2 days a week) or FT driver in progression. 22.4 doesn't exist now. I would find out from your local which you fall under.
  20. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    22.4 doesn't exist, those should be FT driving positions.