Air on saturdays

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by charm299, Sep 13, 2019 at 1:34 PM.

  1. charm299

    charm299 New Member

    Is Delivering air on saturdays overtime if it is a sixth punch for a part timer in the southern supplement?
     
  2. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I'd say yes but maybe you should ask your Shop Steward.
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  3. truckofdreams

    truckofdreams Member

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    Depends do you drive air during the week or do you load and unload? If you drive air then yes it’s a sixth punch if you don’t then my understanding is no.
     
  4. charm299

    charm299 New Member

    I am a part time cover driver. I drove Monday thru Thursday and I drove eam’s today for an hour and a half.
     
  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Were you over 40 hours for the week?
     
  6. truckofdreams

    truckofdreams Member

    Then yea you will get six report
     
  7. charm299

    charm299 New Member

    No not over 40
     
  8. Where'sMyRegularDriver?

    Where'sMyRegularDriver? Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

    The answer is not clear if you are not a part-time air driver. Speak to your steward.

    Southern Supplement Article 49 Section 1(A) does not mention 6th punch.

    Article 58 Section 1(B) says 6th punch is all overtime, but that whole section is referring to a full time schedule.

    If you are a part-time air driver during the week, then 6th punch is regular pay under Article 40 Master Section 1 (d)(1).
     
  9. charm299

    charm299 New Member

    Yeah that’s why I wasn’t sure because it said any employee who works a sixth punch.
     
  10. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Your best bet would be to talk to a shop steward or call your local and speak with your BA.
     
  11. charm299

    charm299 New Member

    Yeah I will, thanks y’all.
     
  12. Where'sMyRegularDriver?

    Where'sMyRegularDriver? Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

    Please post the answer when you find out. I would like to know. Thanks.
     
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  13. Yeet

    Yeet Inbound, turnaround, go to town

    A sixth punch is time and a half in the southern region, even for a part timer. I know from experience.
     
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  14. Where'sMyRegularDriver?

    Where'sMyRegularDriver? Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

    Is that in the contract, or did your steward or BA work it out? I couldn't find it.
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Article 58 of the southern says "all employees". I'm assuming the interpretation was PT as well.
     
  16. Where'sMyRegularDriver?

    Where'sMyRegularDriver? Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

    You're probably right. Article 49 is titled Part-Time employees and talks about overtime, but doesn't mention 6th punch. I need a flowchart or maybe a baby mobile that i can hang over my bed to study before I go to sleep.
     
  17. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    6th punch is overtime in southern no matter what you did during the 5 previous days.
     
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  18. Yeet

    Yeet Inbound, turnaround, go to town

    I’m not even sure but I can tell you with certainty that’s the way it is.
     
  19. brentagon

    brentagon New Member

    ARTICLE 40. AIR OPERATION
    Preamble
    In order for the Employer, the Union and the employees to further
    benefit from the expanding air operations, the following Sections
    shall supersede language on the same subjects in the Supplements,
    Riders and Addenda, unless specifically stated otherwise in this Ar

    -
    ticle

    (k) Saturday or Sunday Air Work

    (1)
    To perform Saturday or Sunday air work the Employer and the
    Union recognize the need for air drivers other than those regularly
    scheduled. Qualified part-time employees who are interested in
    performing this work will so notify the Employer....



    (2)
    These employees shall be paid at the air driver’s straight-time
    rate of pay in accordance with Section 6 below. Time and one-half
    (1-1/2) will be paid after eight (8) hours per day or after forty (40)
    hours per week.

    So according to this language, since Article 40 supersedes any supplement, rider or addenda, the answer would be no to overtime on a 6th day punch or 7th day punch. Unless you work over 8 hours that day or 40 hours for workweek.

    I went through this for a few years when I did Saturday air (I am part time/preload/air driver) and we always complain about why we never got overtime for a 6th day punch (unless over 8 hours or 40 workweek). I finally found the answer to it during this past peak season when I punched in Sunday night (7th day punch, DOUBLE TIME) to do set up in my hub, then I would drive to the Airport around 2am Monday morning (figuring I would get double time the entire shift) , and they were paying me straight time for my Airport shuttle work. Double time for my in building set up work, because I was coded as preload.

    long story short I filed a grievance, it went to panel, and this is what the Labor Manger showed me on our contract under Article 40. Did I agree with it, no, because I was pissed I wasn't getting my double time for entire shift, however, language is language and its pretty clear here.

    hope it makes sense and helps.
     
  20. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Well-Known Member

    Makes me nostalgic for that easy extra $$ on Saturdays from my part-time days.