fishtm2001
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Anti-Democratic Conservatism Isn’t New
Conservatives’ theoretical arguments against democracy have long provided ammunition for opponents of reform.
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The global trend is towards authoritarianism. Why should we think we're any different here? Of course, we won't know what we had until we lose it. Democracy is the precious underpinning of our lives. Once it's gone...
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For those who laugh at my comment, feel free to move to an authoritarian country and report back with details of your experience.
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Wish they'd move to Hungary or Poland and never come back. 
You mean the EU countries that insist on not letting the EU control them? Very telling that you consider them authoritarian.Wish they'd move to Hungary or Poland and never come back.
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They’re Putin’s bitches. Like the former president.
They hate the Russians. Why do you think they joined NATO? Is there anything out there you haven't interpreted through the lens of MSNBC?
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Órban is cozy with Putin. There’s no hate between them. You are gravely uninformed.
Uh-huh.
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Marvelous counter-argument.
fishtm2001
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Orban is seen as Putin's closest ally in the European Union, and the Hungarian prime minister has been a strong advocate of the easing of EU sanctions imposed on Russia for its actions in Ukraine.
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But Newsmax told me something very different!
fishtm2001
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Van repeats what he hears from Tucker and he thinks that makes him smart.
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Haven't seen Tucker talk about Hungary. You're focused on their current leader. Hungary suffered under the Soviet Union's thumb and first chance they got they joined NATO. However as a member of the EU they've resisted taking in Syrian and other refugees and have pushed back against Brussels. The Poles definitely aren't aligned with Putin. They hate the Russians. The Russians have natural gas which Europe needs. But the Poles prefer to use their own coal for heat rather than buy from Russia. They're pro USA. But y'all make statements like "they're Putin's bitches" because they aren't letting the EU dictate all of their policies. Obviously you don't have a grasp of history in the region and how that shapes foreign policy.
fishtm2001
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Poland’s autocratic government is at it again
New judicial reforms challenge the supremacy of EU law.
www.politico.eu
Polish state becoming authoritarian, top judge Gersdorf says
The outgoing supreme court chief sees a government appointing political loyalists to the courts.
www.bbc.com
Poland is moving further towards autocracy
In Poland, the right-wing ruling party uses polarisation to pursue its conservative autocratic agenda.
www.opendemocracy.net
Oh wow, liberals who want to control everyone complaining because Poland won't let them. What a shock. And their cousins in the States claim white supremacists are the greatest threat to the U.S. Same ilk.Poland’s autocratic government is at it again
New judicial reforms challenge the supremacy of EU law.
Polish state becoming authoritarian, top judge Gersdorf says
The outgoing supreme court chief sees a government appointing political loyalists to the courts.
Poland is moving further towards autocracy
In Poland, the right-wing ruling party uses polarisation to pursue its conservative autocratic agenda.
fishtm2001
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We get it. You like authoritarian leaders.
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Well, that’s pretty much all of us!
What'dyabringmetoday???
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So one that likes executive orders?
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