Anyone seen these package car cameras yet?

Redtag

Part on order, ok to drive
I just saw this on a FB UPS mechanic group. We don't have them yet, anybody know what they are capable of?

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542thruNthru

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Heard from my steward they'll be in our trucks at some point this year. Yippee...

If you go to their website it will tell you all about them.
 

scratch

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The inside camera isn't on unless you are involved in a hard braking incident, but the motion detector is always on. So they can monitor where your hands are. Drinking, smoking, phone use, etc. The outside camera is for recording accidents. The vehicle is owned by UPS, so I imagine the Teamsters can't do anything about it. Maybe try to get future contract language regarding discilpine. My old Center starting getting them last week. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
 

MyTripisCut

“They” are coming for us.
The inside camera isn't on unless you are involved in a hard braking incident, but the motion detector is always on. So they can monitor where your hands are. Drinking, smoking, phone use, etc. The outside camera is for recording accidents. The vehicle is owned by UPS, so I imagine the Teamsters can't do anything about it. Maybe try to get future contract language regarding discilpine. My old Center starting getting them last week. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
Honestly I don’t even care. You wanna watch me while I drive around in circles and leave cardboard boxes? Have fun. I’m on the phone all day via one earbud as per State DOT and the NMA. Fire me if they want, this place is getting worse by the minute anyways.
 

542thruNthru

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The inside camera isn't on unless you are involved in a hard braking incident, but the motion detector is always on. So they can monitor where your hands are. Drinking, smoking, phone use, etc. The outside camera is for recording accidents. The vehicle is owned by UPS, so I imagine the Teamsters can't do anything about it. Maybe try to get future contract language regarding discilpine. My old Center starting getting them last week. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
So than pretty much it's always on. We're always moving.
 

scratch

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So than pretty much it's always on. We're always moving.
My understanding is the motion sensor is aimed at the steering wheel area to see if you are driving with both hands on the wheel while the car is in motion. But what do I know, I learned not to believe anything the company told me a long time ago.
 

Analbumcover

ControlPkgs
That should be fun. @Dragon can watch me sing my various renditions of Aida and The Marriage of Figaro for 10 hours. I swear, this company will never relent until all RPCDs have been fired and replaced with 22 whatevers.
 

Porknado

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I’ve driven for companies with this camera before. It’s always on, video and audio, and can be accessed and live streamed on demand. The outward facing one is helpful in traffic incidents, but the inward facing camera is only good for watching the driver, except in a day cab tractor where it has a view out the rear window.

It doesn’t have a motion sensor at all, that’s a function of the interior camera. It doesn’t necessarily record the interior, but it does pick up “risky behavior” and email supervisors as well as warning the driver (configurable).
 

zubenelgenubi

天安门大屠杀
"Article 6
Section 4. Technological Change
1. Technological change shall be defned as any signifcant change in equipment or materials which results in a signifcant change in the work of any classifcation of employees in the bargaining unit or diminishes the number of workers in any classifcation of em- ployees in the bargaining unit. Such changes could include, but are not limited to, the use of drones or driverless vehicles to transport, deliver or pick-up packages, or platooning.
2. The Employer and the Union agree to establish a National Teamster/UPS Committee for Technological Change, consisting of an equal number of representatives from the Union and UPS. The Committee shall meet upon request, but not less than three (3) times per year, to review any planned technological changes cov- ered by this Section.
3. The Employer will advise the affected Local Unions and the Na- tional Teamster/UPS Committee for Technological Change of any proposed technological changes when the change has entered the feld testing phase or at least six (6) months prior to the implemen- tation of such change except where the change was later deter- mined in which case the Employer shall provide as much notice as possible. In all cases, the Company will provide notice of any tech- nological change covered by this Section before the technology is implemented.
4. The Employer shall be required to provide the National Team- ster/UPS Committee for Technological Change, any relevant infor- mation to the extent available regarding the technological changes.
5. The Employer will meet with the National Teamster/UPS Com- mittee for Technological Change, promptly after notifcation to ne- gotiate regarding the effects of the proposed technological changes.
The Technological Change Committee shall also have the right to raise and attempt to resolve any claim that the Company’s techno- logical change violates any provision of the National Master Agree- ment or the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum.
If a technological change creates new work that replaces, enhances or modifes bargaining unit work, bargaining unit employees will perform that new or modifed work. The Employer shall provide bargaining unit employees with training required to utilize the new technology, if necessary.
6. In the event that the National Committee cannot reach agree- ment on the dispute, either party may refer all outstanding disputes to the National Grievance Committee for expedited resolution in accordance with the provisions of Article 8 in order to determine if the Employer has violated the provisions of this Section or if the change will result in a violation of any other provision of the col- lective bargaining agreement.
7. This Section shall supersede any Supplemental, Rider or Adden- dum provision on the same subject."

Even if this wasn't in the contract, this is a mandatory negotiaton subject, according to the NRLA/NRLB for a change in working conditions.
 

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
"Article 6
Section 4. Technological Change
1. Technological change shall be defned as any signifcant change in equipment or materials which results in a signifcant change in the work of any classifcation of employees in the bargaining unit or diminishes the number of workers in any classifcation of em- ployees in the bargaining unit. Such changes could include, but are not limited to, the use of drones or driverless vehicles to transport, deliver or pick-up packages, or platooning.
2. The Employer and the Union agree to establish a National Teamster/UPS Committee for Technological Change, consisting of an equal number of representatives from the Union and UPS. The Committee shall meet upon request, but not less than three (3) times per year, to review any planned technological changes cov- ered by this Section.
3. The Employer will advise the affected Local Unions and the Na- tional Teamster/UPS Committee for Technological Change of any proposed technological changes when the change has entered the feld testing phase or at least six (6) months prior to the implemen- tation of such change except where the change was later deter- mined in which case the Employer shall provide as much notice as possible. In all cases, the Company will provide notice of any tech- nological change covered by this Section before the technology is implemented.
4. The Employer shall be required to provide the National Team- ster/UPS Committee for Technological Change, any relevant infor- mation to the extent available regarding the technological changes.
5. The Employer will meet with the National Teamster/UPS Com- mittee for Technological Change, promptly after notifcation to ne- gotiate regarding the effects of the proposed technological changes.
The Technological Change Committee shall also have the right to raise and attempt to resolve any claim that the Company’s techno- logical change violates any provision of the National Master Agree- ment or the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum.
If a technological change creates new work that replaces, enhances or modifes bargaining unit work, bargaining unit employees will perform that new or modifed work. The Employer shall provide bargaining unit employees with training required to utilize the new technology, if necessary.
6. In the event that the National Committee cannot reach agree- ment on the dispute, either party may refer all outstanding disputes to the National Grievance Committee for expedited resolution in accordance with the provisions of Article 8 in order to determine if the Employer has violated the provisions of this Section or if the change will result in a violation of any other provision of the col- lective bargaining agreement.
7. This Section shall supersede any Supplemental, Rider or Adden- dum provision on the same subject."

Even if this wasn't in the contract, this is a mandatory negotiaton subject, according to the NRLA/NRLB for a change in working conditions.
But does cameras in the cab
" results in a signifcant change in the work of any classifcation of employees in the bargaining unit or diminishes the number of workers in any classifcation of em- ployees in the bargaining unit."

The cradle changes our work more than a camera in the cab and it wasn't negotiated.
 
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