APWA, is for real, not driven by mgmt but by good hard working UPSers who just want to get what we are paying for! ex. the maint.people in my shop are represented by the I.A.M.(machinist union) over the past 30yrs. they have put (within 800.00 dollars) of what a full time emplyee represented by the IBT has put into their pension. They will recieve 8000.00 per month at 30yrs. I obtained a copy of one of they're statements, the person started when he was 30 at age 62 he will recieve 10,054.00 per month!!!! Do some research, get a group together invite representitive from the APWA to your area. Fact we keep 40% of the money we put into our multi-employer fund. Fact by the year 2012 there will be 1 working for every 2 retired. Who's carrying the burden? Ups people, their wives, their children. You have woked hard for your money, now if we work together we can get what we have earned.