why does it shock you that BLM officers would be pointing loaded weapons? Yes the Bundy folks were peaceful but well armed as well. In a situation that could have erupted at any moment and ended very badly, why shouldn't officers be prepared?
BLM vs Bundy
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realbrown1
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What does the BLM need an armed army of officers for? And why does this not disturb you?
Fighting in court can bankrupt an individual. It's not always an alternative worth pursuing.
Kmart sux. So does Walmart. And Orion.
moreluck
golden ticket member
They cancel each other out !!!
It doesn't disturb me because this is exactly what the NRA insists gun rights are for--to stand up against a perceived tyrannical government. This is what they've pushed in individualist vs the government fantasy. I fully expect the government to be prepared for anything and if it comes to shooting, Bundy and his supporters will be tragically crushed. I would urge that Bundy find a way to get this into the courts because in the end, it won't matter who shoots first.
Did Randy Weaver "win" on Ruby Ridge or in court?
realbrown1
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So let's get this straight. You're OK with the BLM being armed to the teeth. The CIA, the FBI, Homeland Security, the military and reserves and all other governmental authorities because of the threat posed by armed people?
Did I get that right?
No. I am not "ok" with it but it is the lay of the land. So if Michigan militias or Bundy supporters or Black Panthers or KKK or skin heads or any other group decides that they'd rather take up arms rather than go to court, the outcome is a foregone conclusion.
realbrown1
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Because when a government has more to fear from its own people. than outside forces, it is the beginning of the end for that government.
That is sad, because I think our government is worth changing to try to save it.
Neither you, me, Bundy, or anyone else will change the government at the end of a gun. Court rulings, maybe. And yes, it is worth changing.
And i don't think they are afraid of the people anyway. Why should they be? Sending in armed officers isn't showing fear as much as it is showing overwhelming force is on hand.
Can you ever get a topic right? This is about an old man, who for decades has been in and out of court with the federal government for NOT paying what he is required to pay.
Court order after court order has been issued against Bundy going back to the 90's and now, in 2014, BLM is getting serious and acting on those FEDERAL COURT ORDERS.
This isnt about congress, or the president or liberals.
Its about the law.
The only thing BUNDY owns is a small melon farm and NOT the land his cattle graze on.
There are NO FREEGRAZERS allowed in this country. He repeats the "blame" on blacks for taking from the government, but fails to acknowledge that he is worse then "blacks" by actually "stealing" from the government.
TOS.
moreluck
golden ticket member
for not paying...........you say?
Charlie Rangel has not paid rent on his office bldg. in the district he represents..........they gave him a 6 mos. grace period, but it's over a year now and he has not paid anything. The topic is NOT PAYING......like Bundy not paying. TOPIC, TOPIC !!
Charlie Rangel has not paid rent on his office bldg. in the district he represents..........they gave him a 6 mos. grace period, but it's over a year now and he has not paid anything. The topic is NOT PAYING......like Bundy not paying. TOPIC, TOPIC !!
realbrown1
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You don't change government at the end of a gun. You destroy it at the end of a gun.
It's a shame, because this incident at the Bundy ranch is going to be a wake up call for some Americans and the rallying call for others.
MAKAVELI
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I guess you don't remember the Waco Massacre.
realbrown1
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As far as I know, the only ones who brandished weapons at the Bundy Ranch were the BLM agents.
Care to refute that?
realbrown1
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I remember it. How does it pertain to the BLM or the Bundy Ranch?
MAKAVELI
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Exactly what our government is capable of when a nutcase has a gun.
realbrown1
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That's what the King of England thought in 1775, '76, '77.....
And look out how that worked for him.
oldngray
nowhere special
Waco is a lousy example if you are using that as an example to defend BLM's actions. Waco was an example of the government over reacting and causing massive casualties. Koresh was a nutcase but the actions of the feds were what caused the tragedy.
http://www.serendipity.li/waco.html
