BLM vs Bundy

[moreluck]

The gov't is worried about uncollected fees but they throw money at illegal aliens all the time. You'd have your fees if you quit giving money away to people who aren't even residents.

 

[oldngray]

 

[realbrown1]

You left out, "We are here to save the turtles, from the grazing cows."

 

[Babagounj]

I'm amazed that only now the cattle vs turtles habitat is an issue , seems the two have been together for over a century .

 

[oldngray]

I'm amazed that only now the cattle vs turtles habitat is an issue , seems the two have been together for over a century .

And no mention of the over population of wild horses that are far more destructive of habitat. But horses are "cute".

 

[The Other Side]

Like I said in a previous post but it wasnt posted, the "patriots" want to use women and children as human shields...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/...n-bundy-ranch-standoff/#.U00-G7VsO7Q.facebook

Idiots.

TOS.

 

[Babagounj]

Documents show the BLM paid a Utah cattle wrangler $966,000 to collect Bundy's cattle and a Utah auctioneer to sell them. However, Utah Gov. Gary Herbert refused to let Bundy cattle cross state lines, saying in a letter: "As Governor of Utah, I urgently request that a herd of cattle seized by the Bureau of Land Management from Mr. Cliven Bundy of Bunkerville, Nevada, not be sent to Utah. There are serious concerns about human safety and animal health and well-being, if these animals are shipped to and sold in Utah."

That letter was sent three days before the BLM round-up, which is why the cattle were still being held Saturday in temporary pens just a few miles from Bundy's ranch. Morrison says BLM was sitting on cattle because it had no way to get rid of them -- setting up a potential tragedy as orphaned calves were not getting any milk and feed costs were about to skyrocket.

The court order from October 2013 says Bundy owes $200 per day per head for every day he fails to move his cattle. That amounts to roughly $640 million in damages owed to the federal government for illegally grazing his cattle.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...g-trail-wreckage-after-nevada-ranch-standoff/

 

[Babagounj]

Like I said in a previous post but it wasnt posted, the "patriots" want to use women and children as human shields...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/...n-bundy-ranch-standoff/#.U00-G7VsO7Q.facebook

Idiots.

TOS.

Why are they idiots ?
Look at every mass demonstration from around the world , and who's in the front lines ?

 

[The Other Side]

Why are they idiots ?
Look at every mass demonstration from around the world , and who's in the front lines ?

So, in other words, now you support the iraqis using women and children as human shields if it supports their cause?

TOS

 

[oldngray]

http://www.infowars.com/flashback-sen-reid-breaks-ground-for-nevada-solar-farm-near-bundy-ranch/

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who was exposed last Friday as the mastermind behind the Bureau of Land Management’s persecution of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, can be seen in this March 2014 photo breaking ground for a new solar farm near the Bundy Ranch, emphasizing that the senator’s plan for solar projects in Nevada wasn’t just limited to the shelved solar farm near Laughlin.

 

[bottomups]

Not seeing the connection. This is about a man who wishes to continue to earn a living without government interference. OWS is about people who want the government to interfere in everyone's lives so they don't have to work. Apples and Oranges...

This is about a man who wants to earn a living collecting welfare from the Government. Feeding his cattle without paying for it. Kind of like collecting food stamps.

 

[Babagounj]

So, in other words, now you support the iraqis using women and children as human shields if it supports their cause?

TOS

Why is every thing about Iraq ?
All I stated was to look at worldwide demonstrations and you singled out iraqis as your example .

 

[moreluck]

The cattle and the tortoise have been co-existing for hundreds of years.

 

[Babagounj]

This is about a man who wants to earn a living collecting welfare from the Government. Feeding his cattle without paying for it. Kind of like collecting food stamps.

He pays his county & state fees , just not the federal fees .
Let's not forget the damage the BLM did to his water distribution system ; holding tanks & water pipes . Which was not covered in the court order that allowed the BLM to seize the cattle .

 

[oldngray]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ys-nevada-ranch-wrecked-by-retreating-friend/

BLM agents left a slew of property damages in their wake, including holes in water tanks, wrecked water lines and destroyed fences.
http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=ctd-fI3Dar4z1uacwqm_6r&u=washtimes

 

[Babagounj]

Your tax dollar at work. No comment from PETA.

 

[moreluck]

 

[The Other Side]

Ok, all right wing B.S. aside, lets examine the facts of the case...

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2014/04/14/cliven-bundy-has-no-claim-to-federal-land-and-grazing/

TOS.

 

[wkmac]

Clive Bundy has the same level of claim on the land today as our federal gov't did over a century and half ago when it claimed the same land as its own.

 

[moreluck]

Tell me about the euthanasia of tortoises.....