Build That Wall!!

refineryworker05

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What's very interesting about the wall thing isn't that trump wanted to build one, republicans had already passed a build the wall thing in mid 2000's, what's interesting is that the whole build the wall thing was a huge part of trump's run as a candidate, it was his biggest applause line during his rallies, his supporters loved it, and you'd think his supporters would care about how much progress has been made on the wall based on the enthusiasm they had for building that wall, but they don't care that trump didn't build much new wall at all. Maybe it was cathartic to them just to hear trump use the wall with such venom against Mexico/Mexicans, maybe they just liked the absurdity of his claims, but they don't care that not much new wall was built. He didn't pass an immigration law, so whatever changes he made with immigration can be undone.

What is clear to me is that voters will vote for a $15 dollar minimum wage or vote to get the Medicaid expansion in the ACA and still vote for republicans who are against those goals. American politics are very strange.
 

fishtm2001

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What's very interesting about the wall thing isn't that trump wanted to build one, republicans had already passed a build the wall thing in mid 2000's, what's interesting is that the whole build the wall thing was a huge part of trump's run as a candidate, it was his biggest applause line during his rallies, his supporters loved it, and you'd think his supporters would care about how much progress has been made on the wall based on the enthusiasm they had for building that wall, but they don't care that trump didn't build much new wall at all. Maybe it was cathartic to them just to hear trump use the wall with such venom against Mexico/Mexicans, maybe they just liked the absurdity of his claims, but they don't care that not much new wall was built. He didn't pass an immigration law, so whatever changes he made with immigration can be undone.

What is clear to me is that voters will vote for a $15 dollar minimum wage or vote to get the Medicaid expansion in the ACA and still vote for republicans who are against those goals. American politics are very strange.
It's not that his supporters don't care ( though I'm sure that's true of those who just want tax cuts and conservative judges), it's actually that many believe he DID build a huge wall and that Mexico DID pay for it! Look at their sources of information and it's easy to understand why.
 

refineryworker05

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It's not that his supporters don't care ( though I'm sure that's true of those who just want tax cuts and conservative judges), it's actually that many believe he DID build a huge wall and that Mexico DID pay for it! Look at their sources of information and it's easy to understand why.
See I don’t pretend with trump supporters. I don’t pretend they believe absurd things because of their news sources. The reality is if they cared about the wall, they’d make it their business to know how much new wall was actually built. They don’t know care and so they pretend.
 

Non sequitur

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Hungary's New 14 ft. high razor wire electric double fence​

Hungary's New 14 ft. high razor wire electric double fence
It would be nice to see this in newspapers and TV.
Hungary's New Border Fence called a 'Spectacular Success'.."
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Skeptics who believe a border wall will not stop illegals from entering the United States may want to look at what's happening in Hungary

On the day its border fence was completed, the influx of illegals entering Hungary went down from 6,353 per day to 870 the next. For the remainder of that month, illegal border crossings were steadily below 40 per day, officials said.

"They don't even try," a local border guard told The Daily Caller News Foundation. "We haven't had a single Muslim migrant in six months."
Prime Minister Viktor Orban's pledge to stop illegals from flowing into the country appears to be a spectacular success.

Hungary's 96-mile long, 14-foot tall double-line fence includes several layers of razor-wire capable of delivering electric shocks. The barrier features cameras, heat sensors and loudspeakers ready to tell migrants they're about to break Hungarian law if they as much as touch the fence, the DC report said.

Nearly every police officer in Hungary is part of a rotation to monitor the border fence at all times. Temporary military bases house the police while they do their rotation.
Additionally, Hungary will train and pay more than 1,000 volunteers to deploy as "border hunters".

Illegals who are caught are arrested and dropped off on the Serbian side of the fence. They don't get a chance to apply for asylum unless they do so at a "transit zone" where they are held in housing containers while their cases get processed, the report said.

In September 2016, thousands of migrants streamed across the border every day as they made their way north to Austria, Germany and Scandinavia.
"It was an invasion," Laszlo Toroczkai, the mayor of Asotthalom, told the Daily Caller. "Illegal immigration is a crime in a normal country. It's not a normal thing to break into a country."

"By mid-year it was well beyond 100,000 people who came across," said Zoltan Kovacs, a spokesman for the Hungarian government. "You should at least have the ability to handle what's going on."

Kovacs added: "You might not like it, it's not a nice thing, but .. the only way to stop illegal border crossings is [to] first build a fence, man it, equip it, and also, in parallel, build up your capabilities in terms of legal confines, legal circumstances to be able to handle what is coming."
It's no surprise the mainstream U.S. media refuses to report this story to the American public. Can you imagine how support for a Southern border wall would spike?

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