Constant schedule changes

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Misthios, May 3, 2019.

  1. Big Package

    Big Package Handler

    Those dinosaurs fought tooth and nail for a very long time for you to keep your union protections OP.

    I understand you want this position but show some respect for your brothers and sisters.
  2. Misthios

    Misthios I love my job. Don't you?

    Once you've gotten 35-40 years you've had enough. You're just holding people down at that point.
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  3. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    No, contract states 18 months of ratification, with an additional 6 months for a small number of drivers.

  4. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Define ratification. The master or the final supplement?
  5. Ghost in the Darkness

    Ghost in the Darkness Well-Known Member

    I've been at UPS for almost 20 years and still haven't been able to bid the route I want most or bid every vacation week each year that I want but thats the way it goes. Its seniority and I repsect that.
  6. The Master isn't ratified until all of the supplements are ratified
  7. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Excellent definition.
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  9. BurningBrown

    BurningBrown New Member

    I'm surprised no one touched on this but are they doing this to other drivers? As in, are there other drivers whom are lower in seniority who are remaining on the Mon-Fri list while you're being forced back to Tues-Sat? Because that's all the real grounds for grievance you would have in this situation, that I am aware of.

    If you look at it from managements perspective, they need enough drivers to fulfill the routes necessary to run their Saturday operation. If a Saturday driver quits or they decide to add more routes, etc. Then they need to be able to fill that void. You might be in that fluctuation range in terms of seniority and there really isn't much recourse for you in this situation. However, Saturdays are still new, they're feeling it out and I'm sure will get a more sustainable plan for those Saturdays.

    I know Saturday's suck, I had to do it for just a few weeks when it all started but I was on the top of the seniority list for Saturdays and basically got to choose any route. It wasn't bad but I hate working weekends. I get it.
  10. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    thank u for all you do
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  12. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    stop following me
  13. Misthios

    Misthios I love my job. Don't you?

    I totally understand that. What I don't think anyone is getting is that the routes have actually gone down while still maintaining the same staffing level. No new drivers in, nobody quit or no one got fired. This maintained for the entire year I didn't work Saturdays. Also there is a fully qualified drive r sitting at home with his dick in his hand because hub manager won't sign off on him just yet. This isn't just a simple hey guy schedule change. There are multiple moving parts and that's where the question comes from.
  14. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    I was going to post the language that applies to your situation but then you post this.

    You want the protection of your seniority rights but you disrespect those who have been grinding it out for decades.

    So figure out the contract yourself. Those dinosaurs are just holding you down, right? Typical self entitled Millennials!

    Someone look up my rights for me. Steward sucks because I don't get my way. I sould get the shift I want. I am being harrassed because I don't get my way.

    Does your mommy still make your lunch for you?
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  15. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Spot on brother, couldn't have said it any better!
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    No one doubts that!
  17. 5Cube4Life

    5Cube4Life Member

    I am guessing since you are low in seniority they moved you back to Saturdays. Weekly vacations are amping up, they may have seasonals soon to use on Mondays. Also, they may be increasing their Saturday roster for the summer. Call offs seem to always increase in the summer, especially Saturdays.
  18. As a millennial it's interesting to see both the perception and reality of millennials in the workplace.
    OP very much has what I'd say is now seen as an entitled millennial attitude. However I think it's more just that he's young and invincible and eager to prove himself and get his and anyone who stands in his way must be an :censored2:. We've had guys like that for all of time, young guys especially.
    Keeping in mind that the youngest millennials are 22 right now while the oldest are nearing 40...I see a lot of fist-shaking at millennials coming from millennials. And funnier than that, I see millennials fist-shaking and complaining about millennials while referring to generation Z, the kids after millennials. Oldest of those are about 20 or 21 now. So college kids are no longer millennials for the most part.

    Anyway, I think that attitude is more prevalent in some (especially younger) millennials because of the way they were raised on a societal level, not just by their parents. But I also think that most of them are disabused of it and grow out of it as they live in the real world.

    Food for thought. Yes I'm a millennial, no I'm not a transient part time package slave, and no my mommy doesn't pack my lunch or pay my bills.

    Edit: and when it comes to generation Z, sorry I think we're :censored2:ed.
  19. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    why though
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