CONvid lockdowns and mandates set to return sometime this fall

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Nah
I don't think anyone should be upset for the vaccines being developed or delivered, it was the mandates for me. People should have options, just like flu shots, but you don't get to force it on us.
We should be upset for them being developed. They are a bio-weapon with the purpose of helping to reduce the global population. They want less than 500,000,000 humans on this planet, and they're murdering us, piecemeal, to do it.
 
We should be upset for them being developed. They are a bio-weapon with the purpose of helping to reduce the global population. They want less than 500,000,000 humans on this planet, and they're murdering us, piecemeal, to do it.
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qdg2

Well-Known Member
Oh you hard liners. That's a major tenet of Christianity. To be there for each other.

Social Security is social insurance, not socialism. It's an agreed on method to spread risk on the entire working population. It's not about making sure everyone has equal outcomes.

To put it bluntly, UPS has to deal with a union because you can't outsource deliveries to some company overseas. Thus your union is able to negotiate very good pay and benefits for you. Compare that to FedEx where Fred S made sure a union couldn't get in. Meanwhile workers at FedEx Ground, Walmart, and countless other companies have to deal with minimal if any benefits. What Social Security does is insure that after a lifetime of work those employees will at least have SS and Medicare. Means little to you because your retirement is secure. Is incredibly important to the working poor.

We do have a system where one can work his way into something better. But the fact remains that only so many of those positions are available. In order for many companies today to do well they have to depend on much of their workforce being willing to accept just getting by. Half of our workforce are essentially wage slaves. So in return for helping them succeed the employers contribute half of the employees' Social Security. Seems fair, and just.
Hard liner?

Oh you squishes....

Move to Sweden or Norway. Maybe you'll meet ABBA. Pay your 70% in taxes and get all the "social justice" there is....
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Lol @rickyb
Sweden has 33,000 homeless people in a country of 10 million. The US has 552,000 homeless people in a country of 328 million. However, people prefer to say that US has homeless problem but not Sweden, why?
yea so you would take those numbers to find out the rate of homelessness. sweden seems to be relatively high in this photo. but otherwise what i said was true which is the nordic countries have virtually eliminated homelessness. or maybe at one point in the past few decades they did but no more since austerity kicked in or with neoliberalism beginning in the 1980s.

i dont know if they say sweden has a homeless problem, by this graph they certainly do, but maybe theres more supports for their homeless vs america.

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rickyb

Well-Known Member
Because capitalism bad.
theres a video i posted on my anti capitalism pro worker control thread, and its an american from LA who moved to finland i believe and he says doing the same job he has the same disposable income but the streets are clean, theres no homelessness, etc.
 

qdg2

Well-Known Member
theres a video i posted on my anti capitalism pro worker control thread, and its an american from LA who moved to finland i believe and he says doing the same job he has the same disposable income but the streets are clean, theres no homelessness, etc.
Ok. Why is that ricky? Clean blah blah. Each according to his needs eh ricky?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
yea so you would take those numbers to find out the rate of homelessness. sweden seems to be relatively high in this photo. but otherwise what i said was true which is the nordic countries have virtually eliminated homelessness. or maybe at one point in the past few decades they did but no more since austerity kicked in or with neoliberalism beginning in the 1980s.

i dont know if they say sweden has a homeless problem, by this graph they certainly do, but maybe theres more supports for their homeless vs america.

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But that’s not what you said. I think you like to make statements without any real truth or knowledge of what you’re talking about or something he’s on YouTube. Sweden has a pretty big homeless problem.
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
If my health goes to hell I'm checking out of this quagmire.
Statistically I believe if you are in good health at 75 you have a very good chance of living to 90 or beyond. My dad lived to 92 and it was only his last couple years when his health worsened.
 

rod

Retired 22 years
Statistically I believe if you are in good health at 75 you have a very good chance of living to 90 or beyond. My dad lived to 92 and it was only his last couple years when his health worsened.
I kinda believe in stuff like that also. I know if you can make it thru your 50's you should be able to make 70. I knew a lot of people who died in their 50's. Most by some form of cancer.
 

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