Covid Vaccinations

tonyexpress

Whac-A-Troll Patrol
Staff member
But if you need to catch the disease to gain the added immunity, you still have a greater risk of dying just getting to the same point as if you were vaccinated, and ALL the science shows that even if you previously had ovid, you can still catch it again- in at least 9000 cases- within 6 months- and still die from it. 7 people died out of 9000 documented with covid for the second time within 6 months, That is approximately the same rate as the number of vaccinated people who get covid, who die. And that just about says it all. You want people to risk dying to become immune once, for a brief period, and still end up with about the same risk of dying again as if they had the vaccine. And because even the so called natural immunity wanes, people reading this crap may thing they have life long immunity and no chance of dying from a second case, if they survived the first case. And the argument that natural immunity is 6-7 times better (at first) than a vaccine is a reason for booster shots. Instead of possibly catching covid and dying to boost immunity, just get the vaccine. NO ONE has developed covid from getting the imunity the vaccine gives. Some people are just sooooo afraid of a tiny shot in the arm, and would rather have 100 times the risk of death vs getting vaccinated as compared to someone unvaccinated who has never had covid. Almost EVERYONE who has had a severe case of covid wants to be vaccinated once they recover, if they recover, and increase their odds against getting it again.
Wow, a lot of words to say the same over and over again.... Did you read the article?

- People who are older and have conditions should get the vaccine.

- The young and the healthy should be able to make their own choice, no mandates.

- Those 100 million who've had covid and thus have immunity should also NOT be mandated to get the shot as well.

All this and people have a 98 or 99% chance of having a problem and than includes the vulnerable... Please stop spreading misinformation and fear.... Get another hobby.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
And similar studies have indicated that influenza cases are way down BECAUSE the steps against covid spread are even more effective against influenza- less travel, more distance between people, fewer large gatherings, and masks are ALL effective against influenza spread. If you are surprised that influenze cases are down, you clearly don't understand much.
So the graph is why you reported my post. Here are some more facts. Explain away smart guy..


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It is concluded that influenza virus activity is not associated with material having a particle diameter of about 10 mmicro, but is associated solely with material having a sedimentation constant of about 600 S and hence a probable particle diameter of about 70 mmicro.

In addition to mechanistic information, researchers have also evaluated the size and content characteristics of the SARS-CoV-2 particles. Upon analysis of negative-stained SARS-CoV-2 articles by electron microscopy, different researchers have had varying results, but the diameter of the virus has been found to range between 50 nm to 140 nm.

Ashortage of NIOSH-approved respirators is predicted during an influenza pandemic and other infectious disease outbreaks. Healthcare workers may use surgical masks instead of respirators due to non-availability and for economical reasons. This study investigated the filtration performance of surgical masks for a wide size range of submicron particles including the sizes of many viruses. Five models of FDA-cleared surgical masks were tested for room air particle penetrations at constant and cyclic flow conditions. Penetrations of polydisperse NaCl aerosols (75±20 nm, count median diameter), monodisperse NaCl aerosols (20–400 nm range) and particles in the 20–1000 nm range were measured at 30 and 85 liters/min. Filtration performance of surgical masks varied widely for room air particles at constant flow and correlated with the penetration levels measured under cyclic flow conditions. Room air particle penetration levels were comparable to polydisperse and monodisperse aerosol penetrations at 30 and 85 liters/minute. Filtration performance of FDA-cleared surgical masks varied widely for room air particles, and monodisperse and polydisperse aerosols. The results suggest that not all FDA-cleared surgical masks will provide similar levels of protection to wearers against infectious aerosols in the size range of many viruses.

Mask don't work for either of them. Let's go to your next hypothesis...
 
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thedownhillEXPRESS

Well-Known Member
It's funny how the same people who used to claim healthcare is a human right are now wanting unvaccinated people to not receive medical attention for anything from a broken arm to a heart stent. Shows what a bunch of lying frauds they are.
That right is to receive access to care, not to refuse it (the vaccine dummy).
If we have a choice to save the people who accept and want that access to care vs the people too ignorant to know any better, (or go along with the alien baby doctor from Fox News or that Orange Trump guy) well, survival of the fittest comes to mind.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
That right is to receive access to care, not to refuse it (the vaccine dummy).
If we have a choice to save the people who accept and want that access to care vs the people too ignorant to know any better, (or go along with the alien baby doctor from Fox News or that Orange Trump guy) well, survival of the fittest comes to mind.
Why do the vaccinated need saving? They were saved by the vaccine, right?
 

fedx

Extra Large Package
You must be confused on the argument then. I’m against stupid wasting public resources. If stupid people don’t think they need to buy health insurance the government should make them to protect the common good. Same thing with the vaccine. Take a safe effective shot and stop wasting public resources on easily preventable illnesses.

So fat people shouldn't be allowed health care because they made stupid decisions eating too many Big Macs correct? Cigarette smokers shouldn't get health care because they chose to smoke correct? People who are speeding or texting and driving and get in a car accident shouldn't receive medical care since they made a stupid choice correct? You can't say one group doesn't deserve health care because they made a "stupid decision" but then give health care to other people who make stupid decisions. You can't cherry pick who deserves health care and who doesn't. It's either nobody gets any health care if they make a stupid decision or everybody gets health care regardless if they made a stupid decision.
 

thedownhillEXPRESS

Well-Known Member
So fat people shouldn't be allowed health care because they made stupid decisions eating too many Big Macs correct? Cigarette smokers shouldn't get health care because they chose to smoke correct? People who are speeding or texting and driving and get in a car accident shouldn't receive medical care since they made a stupid choice correct? You can't say one group doesn't deserve health care because they made a "stupid decision" but then give health care to other people who make stupid decisions. You can't cherry pick who deserves health care and who doesn't. It's either nobody gets any health care if they make a stupid decision or everybody gets health care regardless if they made a stupid decision.
We’re talking about triage here .
Yes, I’m all for saving the vaccinated, non smoking grandparent vs the unvaccinated, smoking, 450lbs of Bubba who just realized he’s made some mistakes.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
So fat people shouldn't be allowed health care because they made stupid decisions eating too many Big Macs correct? Cigarette smokers shouldn't get health care because they chose to smoke correct? People who are speeding or texting and driving and get in a car accident shouldn't receive medical care since they made a stupid choice correct? You can't say one group doesn't deserve health care because they made a "stupid decision" but then give health care to other people who make stupid decisions. You can't cherry pick who deserves health care and who doesn't. It's either nobody gets any health care if they make a stupid decision or everybody gets health care regardless if they made a stupid decision.
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