Debates

[Bubblehead]

Fred might want to stop traveling for a little bit. The members in his local from ups have been picketing his local and specifically calling him out for not doing his job. Not good when he is running for National office.

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"This" is about market rate adjustments (MRA's) that were put into place at Worldport and many other areas across the country, to try and become competitive in the part time job market and is not exclusive to Local 89.

Seniority employees are upset (and rightfully so) to see new hires brought in at a rate of pay that took them years to realize in annual raises.

Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest it is reported that new hire hub workers are now being paid in excess of $27/hr to start.

Reality is though, at any time, UPS can declare the market changed and go back to contractual scale.

 

[Swanson]

"This" is about market rate adjustments (MRA's) that were put into place at Worldport and many other areas across the country, to try and become competitive in the part time job market and is not exclusive to Local 89.

Seniority employees are upset (and rightfully so) to see new hires brought in at a rate of pay that took them years to realize in annual raises.

Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest it is reported that new hire hub workers are now being paid in excess of $27/hr to start.

Reality is though, at any time, UPS can declare the market changed and go back to contractual scale.

In LA we are still on the contractual scale

 

[DELACROIX]

"This" is about market rate adjustments (MRA's) that were put into place at Worldport and many other areas across the country, to try and become competitive in the part time job market and is not exclusive to Local 89.

Seniority employees are upset (and rightfully so) to see new hires brought in at a rate of pay that took them years to realize in annual raises.

Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest it is reported that new hire hub workers are now being paid in excess of $27/hr to start.

Reality is though, at any time, UPS can declare the market changed and go back to contractual scale.

Are these senior employees making the same or more than the new hires?

If the L89 membership would of voted in mass in the 2016 election and the 2018 contract for better wage increases and a decent starting rate they would have the right to complain and picket. It is just sour apples now and those who are complaining better show up in this next election and the 2023 contract.

I do not see anything over the horizon as far as the company reducing (MRA’s), inflation is running amok with the Dems in control. This pandemic and it’s aftermath will still be controlling our economy. Every corporation in America is suffering to find bodies to fill their projected job openings, the working conditions that are happening at UPS will probably not change in 2023.

This peak will tell the story, capping Amazon volume again will not prevent a disaster, again pray for good weather in your area.

 

[cachmeifucan]

Fred might want to stop traveling for a little bit. The members in his local from ups have been picketing his local and specifically calling him out for not doing his job. Not good when he is running for National office.

I thought this was a lie. Liars haters and karen u are jlandry

 

[cachmeifucan]

Are these senior employees making the same or more than the new hires?

If the L89 membership would of voted in mass in the 2016 election and the 2018 contract for better wage increases and a decent starting rate they would have the right to complain and picket. It is just sour apples now and those who are complaining better show up in this next election and the 2023 contract.

I do not see anything over the horizon as far as the company reducing (MRA’s), inflation is running amok with the Dems in control. This pandemic and it’s aftermath will still be controlling our economy. Every corporation in America is suffering to find bodies to fill their projected job openings, the working conditions that are happening at UPS will probably not change in 2023.

This peak will tell the story, capping Amazon volume again will not prevent a disaster, again pray for good weather in your area.

MRA will be reevaluated soon out here in suburbs of Chicago so we shall see. Since they got the raise and inflation ate up my raise mainly go to work to socialize. My hard working days are behind me.

 

[nWo]

I think we are in for a rough peak.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think we are in for a rough peak.

We do not have enough vehicles now

 

[I have been lurking]

MRA will be reevaluated soon out here in suburbs of Chicago so we shall see. Since they got the raise and inflation ate up my raise mainly go to work to socialize. My hard working days are behind me.

Took you long enough

 

[DELACROIX]

We do not have enough vehicles now

I’m worried about the people too...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I’m worried about the people too...

Thanks tiny Tim

 

[Jlandry]

I thought this was a lie. Liars haters and karen u are jlandry

All I did was bring to your attention what they posted on the vote no site. Read it for yourself.

 

[UnionStrong]

Thanks tiny Tim

Have fun

 

[Bubblehead]

All I did was bring to your attention what they posted on the vote no site. Read it for yourself.

What you did was nothing short of a slight of hand.

 

[DELACROIX]

As you can see. 3 debates scheduled.

General President candidates
Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 6:30pm(EDT)
Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:00pm(EDT)

General Secretary Treasurer candidates
Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:00pm (EDT)

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Just a reminder if anybody is interested..

Tomorrow..September 29...8 PM...

 

[Brownslave688]

Seniority employees are upset (and rightfully so) to see new hires brought in at a rate of pay that took them years to realize in annual raises.

Shouldn’t they be happy for them? Isn’t that the point of a Union? Equality…

I know a big selling point for years of unions was everyone had the same rate of pay after 30 days.

 

[Brownslave688]

We do not have enough vehicles now

Many of rentals are already sitting because of safety issues. The mechanics aren’t allowed to work on them even to change a light bulb. So yeah should be fun.

 

[UnionStrong]

Shouldn’t they be happy for them? Isn’t that the point of a Union? Equality…

I know a big selling point for years of unions was everyone had the same rate of pay after 30 days.

The laborer is worthy of his wage. It doesn’t matter when you started. They get the higher wage now, you accepted that rate and have been getting fairly paid all this time.

 

[Brownslave688]

The laborer is worthy of his wage. It doesn’t matter when you started. They get the higher wage now, you accepted that rate and have been getting fairly paid all this time.

I would much rather see a pt “full scale” and progression though over what the current system is.

 

[UnionStrong]

I would much rather see a pt “full scale” and progression though over what the current system is.

That’s sounds fair to me

 

[542thruNthru]

I would much rather see a pt “full scale” and progression though over what the current system is.

Agree but then you get the old people that complain that is a PT job and they shouldn't make that much.