Dumb decision

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by htown0721, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. htown0721

    htown0721 Guest

    Monday we had a part-time SUP driving a a bulk cart, no certification of course and lets just say he had an accident which put him in the hospital for a minimum of five days. While he is in the hospital, the rest of us will be under the microscope from upper management and OSHA. Almost all of our supervisor drive the bulk carts without certification, and I have been tempted so many times but its not worth losing your job over.
  2. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    File a grievance !
  3. htown0721

    htown0721 Guest

    Well I would, but you see I am a p/t sup
  4. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Blow the whistle to OSHA. You're federally protected.
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    What type of certification are u talking about you don't need a cdl
  6. htown0721

    htown0721 Guest

    At my center, you have to take a safety test and receive a card stating your have completed everything and are certified to drive the bulk carts. I think its more for audits just to make sure that people driving the bulk carts know what they are doing, however, you can see how well that works
  7. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If someone was killed because you failed to report it, are you going to be able to sleep at night?
  8. splozi

    splozi Guest

    He has to call management first and ask if he's allowed to sleep.
  9. htown0721

    htown0721 Guest

    No need to report it, happened right in front of the center manager
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Gotcha, well I hope something is done about proper training of anyone using the irreg carts before someone is seriously hurt or killed.
  11. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    In our building, that's a job done by hourlies.
  12. htown0721

    htown0721 Guest

    As far as I know every hourly is trained how to use them properly. It's people like the pt sup that ignore safety procedures and use the carts anyways that make the rest of us look like idiots in front of our employees when we try to teach and encourage safety.
  13. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Ties, maroon polo shirts, and anything wheels don't mix. Leave the driving to us.
  14. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    All that free money going to waste . That's the bigger problem here.
  15. NewUpser201

    NewUpser201 New Member

    Omg same thing happened at my hub. Weird.
  16. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster


    What action did the center manager take regarding this violation?

  17. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    That's what I was thinking... unless this guy was just tooling around not moving packages. If he was pulling one cart with one package, someone should be filing.
  18. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Probably PITO training and certification, so you can proudly say you are a Powered Industrial Truck Operator, I'm guessing.

    My building is a maze of supports for the conveyor belts, so there is no room for a bulk (irregulars) train to operate. We just use old-fashioned carts to wheel the bulk through the building. But we do have a fork truck, and I have to be PITO certified to operate it.

    There's also Egress Compliance. A Bulk Train Operator can't leave his unit blocking a walkway or exit except under very limited cercumstances as specified in a Corporate-wide Settlement Agreement (CSA) with the Department of Labor.
  19. klolx

    klolx New Member

    Sounds like you mad that he got 5 days off lol. but OSHA is serious business
  20. btrlov

    btrlov Member

    Most p/t sups are not dumb enough to progress any work on a bulk cart. That's an obvious union target. He was either fooling around, setting up his bulk carts(because the hour-lies dont come in on time to do it themselves), retrieve his bulk cart(because the hourlies intentionally take them one at a time, when they can take them all- to extent thier time on the clock) or if the sup is looking for the bulk driver hourlies that disappear, abusing the sort(cigarette breaks in the yard, talking on phone etc)....

    The penalty will simply depend on the paperwork. Was he trained, was he suppose to be trained but his boss failed to train, was certification faked, were there employees willing and able to do whatever he was doing, did the p/t exhaust his means, Does he have an injury history, was he specifically instructed to drive, why did the FT Sup permit an uncertified p/t sup to drive etc