EAM's counting towards 9.5
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35years
Gravy route
Consider these questions when fighting the good fight:
Does the EAM work stay on the same routes every week, or can it move to other routes depending on interest and seniority?
Has anyone been forced to do the EAM work in the past simply because of the route they are covering?
Essentially is UPS offering the extra work to everyone by seniority or is it "part of the route"
Here they came to the compromise that the hours doing EAM work and/or voluntary preloading prior to your shift would not count towards your 9.5 hours; but if your normal work exceeds 9.5 (after EAM work) those hours and day count.
It's a sticky situation since the EAM is often considered extra work....It depends how "volluntary" the EAM work is, if it is offered by seniority, and if it can move from route to route.
If it is volluntary extra work it would not count towards 9.5 hours...but extra work must be offered by seniority. If it is tied to certain routes and not voluntary it can't be considered extra work but rather part of the duties of the route, so then it would count towards 9.5.
Good luck.
Does the EAM work stay on the same routes every week, or can it move to other routes depending on interest and seniority?
Has anyone been forced to do the EAM work in the past simply because of the route they are covering?
Essentially is UPS offering the extra work to everyone by seniority or is it "part of the route"
Here they came to the compromise that the hours doing EAM work and/or voluntary preloading prior to your shift would not count towards your 9.5 hours; but if your normal work exceeds 9.5 (after EAM work) those hours and day count.
It's a sticky situation since the EAM is often considered extra work....It depends how "volluntary" the EAM work is, if it is offered by seniority, and if it can move from route to route.
If it is volluntary extra work it would not count towards 9.5 hours...but extra work must be offered by seniority. If it is tied to certain routes and not voluntary it can't be considered extra work but rather part of the duties of the route, so then it would count towards 9.5.
Good luck.
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MyTripisCut
Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
It counts here. The only thing unique about my building from most others is we bid start times, not routes. So if you’re doing EAMs it’s built into your dispatch and definitely counts towards 9.5. Most people that bid the EAM start times are just looking to get done earlier.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
That's the real question.
Is the OP being dispatched with this work, or is it a volunteer type situation ?
Elvis657
Member
The company has bid the part time air position but neglects to fill it… using full time to run it…
Elvis657
Member
We bid areas not start times…. But that’s the sole reason for me running EAMs. Earlier start time…. Thank you for your input.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Trust me man. We all know why you're doing it. The issue is it's not your primary job. It's extra work. You are volunteering to perform this extra work. It's not being forced on you. I wish it worked that way but I don't see you winning this one.
Good luck though.
Orion’s making me 💰
Active Member
In our building there are routes that start early to do eam’s. So those routes get 9.5 protection at start time. If your on the call in list your eam’s don’t count for 9.5.
Elvis657
Member
I aim to get the work attached to routes…. Thanks. What local are you with?
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Is it assigned to you or are you volunteering to run eam’s
Elvis657
Member
It’s not assigned at this time.
35years
Gravy route
Then it is voluntary extra work.
You can't ask to be relieved of OT and ask for it.
The best you can try for is counting the other (non EAMs) hours worked for 9.5 on the days you run EAMs
You may end up losing the EAM gig since you don't want the OT
Brown287
Im not the Mail Man!
Here ESM’s is all voluntary, your hours are treated just like the hours you get working pre-load. 9.5 protection is to protect you from excessive “dispatched” hours. It doesn’t protect you against “volunteer” hours as those are volunteer and not mandatory. But hell….no hurt in asking.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
What'dyabringmetoday???
Well-Known Member
You must be.... on the back nine by now. Lol.Hey.... nice try.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Wow! Finally your crappy supplement works out in your favor.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Ain’t gonna work
Nobody’s mad at ya for tryin
MyTripisCut
Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
Never thought it would happen. Our supplement is not crappy BTW….Wow! Finally your crappy supplement works out in your favor.
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