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El Correcto

god is dead
by what standard is lindsey graham a "progressive" republican?

what policies does he support that would fit that definition?
Look at him on immigration and global warming. You have people in the middle, with different views on different issues. He reaches far left and far right.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
i was watching a video of chomsky talking about the definition of "conservative" and he said like other terms (like socialism), the definition has been distorted, so guys like W BUSH who calls himself a conservative are not.
Bush wasn’t conservative. Conservatism comes from traditionalism. It can be bad like in China or good like in America.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
Look at him on immigration and global warming. You have people in the middle, with different views on different issues. He reaches far left and far right.
Graham is one slimy character, nothing less than a political opportunist. He's from South Carolina, a moderate facade at most has allowed him to be re-elected. In a liberal, progressive state he would equal Nancy Pelosi. Graham's saving grace in a conservative South Carolina is the fact that they have open primaries, democrat progressives can control the republican nominee, thus he is re-elected.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Graham is one slimy character, nothing less than a political opportunist. He's from South Carolina, a moderate facade at most has allowed him to be re-elected. In a liberal, progressive state he would equal Nancy Pelosi. Graham's saving grace in a conservative South Carolina is the fact that they have open primaries, democrat progressives can control the republican nominee, thus he is re-elected.
He’s a chameleon with no real morales. That’s what you get in open primaries, chameleons.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
i was watching a video of chomsky talking about the definition of "conservative" and he said like other terms (like socialism), the definition has been distorted, so guys like W BUSH who calls himself a conservative are not.
There has not been a Conservative President since Reagan and I'm not that sure about him.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
republicans are a far right wing party, and democrats are a right of centre party
It's logical that ALIENS would have a different perspective than an American about such things.
I assume they are hesitant about letting you cross the border into the US of A!
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
It's logical that ALIENS would have a different perspective than an American about such things.
I assume they are hesitant about letting you cross the border into the US of A!
im saying relative to other developed countries.

yea they are :censored2:ing retarded pigs last 2 times i tried to cross. my bro was a drug dealer and now apparently im suspected of being guilty by relation, and they were questioning me about if i am black block violent protestor and what protests ive gone to because ive got pro democracy bumper stickers and political clothes.

either you believe in freedom of speech and expression, and the constitution OR you dont.

and its like, if you cant figure out that im not a criminal, then how can you stop the guys who are?

if you wanna stop crime in america, dont worry about the border; the criminals are already in the country! go to wall street, go to the government.

its the hypocrisy that makes me sick. i imagine they roll out the red carpet for dear leader george bush the war criminal who killed many americans and forgieners because of a war for oil, and let all those blacks die in new orleans after the hurricane.

its a big :censored2:in waste of tax dollars, and a waste of time and if they cant put 2 and 2 together very soon im not going to bother with america and i will complain to the ACLU about these :censored2: pigs. or ill try again when trumps out of office.

they should be giving me a medal for my service to democracy (because unlike most parasites on society, i actually do something instead of just philosophize and do nothing) and not doing whatever they currently label as "crime".

one of my coworkers who works in canada on temp visa complained to me also about when he tried to cross the border because they are often rude.
 
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oldngray

nowhere special
Ted Cruz
Solid Supply Side economic policy, fights progressivism, traditionalist in values and possibly the zodiac killer/time traveler.

He has not been President and hopefully never will.
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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
said again, i think the centre is falling out and you either have far right wing or far left wing candidates.
It's because the middle is literally being marginalized. The communist infiltrators have done an excellent job of driving a wedge between us. And there are plenty of whackos on the fringes willing to take advantage of the people being driven to the brink by the communist's identity politics.

republicans are a far right wing party, and democrats are a right of centre party

You, like so many people, seem to be mistaken about what right wing means. On the political spectrum left wing is totalitarianism, right wing is anarchism. Republicans, in general, are middle of the road right wing. Democrats are generally and historically slightly left of center. With the infiltration of communists into the party, they have slid further to the left towards totalitarianism. Republicans are not moving towards anarchism. If anything they are also heading further left.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
It's because the middle is literally being marginalized. The communist infiltrators have done an excellent job of driving a wedge between us. And there are plenty of whackos on the fringes willing to take advantage of the people being driven to the brink by the communist's identity politics.



You, like so many people, seem to be mistaken about what right wing means. On the political spectrum left wing is totalitarianism, right wing is anarchism. Republicans, in general, are middle of the road right wing. Democrats are generally and historically slightly left of center. With the infiltration of communists into the party, they have slid further to the left towards totalitarianism. Republicans are not moving towards anarchism. If anything they are also heading further left.
theres no infiltrators. the left is still very weak.

the centre has had a loss of support because they support neoliberal economics which is privatize everything and deregulate.

stalin was a right wing deviation. he can call himself a socialist or communist all he likes, but when your a dictator im sure thats right wing.

dems went right of centre i believe starting with reagan, and reagan went far right. this is just by american standards; by every other developed country standards, dems would be a right wing party with their no support of vacation, healthcare, maternity leave, etc.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
theres no infiltrators. the left is still very weak.

the centre has had a loss of support because they support neoliberal economics which is privatize everything and deregulate.

stalin was a right wing deviation. he can call himself a socialist or communist all he likes, but when your a dictator im sure thats right wing.

dems went right of centre i believe starting with reagan, and reagan went far right. this is just by american standards; by every other developed country standards, dems would be a right wing party with their no support of vacation, healthcare, maternity leave, etc.

Dictatorships, by definition, are totalitarian, making them left-wing. I'm not well-versed on the official democratic party platform, but I'm fairly certain they support all the things you said they don't.

It's naive to think that communists have not infiltrated our political and education systems, as well as the entertainment industry. They are doing their level best to destroy our values, and divide us as a nation, so that they can sieze total control once we are weak enough. I use the term communists in a very loose sense when talking about infiltrators, referring to anyone who values government control over individual liberty.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Dictatorships, by definition, are totalitarian, making them left-wing. I'm not well-versed on the official democratic party platform, but I'm fairly certain they support all the things you said they don't.

It's naive to think that communists have not infiltrated our political and education systems, as well as the entertainment industry. They are doing their level best to destroy our values, and divide us as a nation, so that they can sieze total control once we are weak enough. I use the term communists in a very loose sense when talking about infiltrators, referring to anyone who values government control over individual liberty.
Is that you Joe McCarthy?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Is that you Joe McCarthy?
I definitely based my decision to use the term communism on McCarthyism. I should probably switch over to using statism. Growing up in the 80's gives viewing communists as the enemy a sort of nostalgia. I don't agree with the methods used during the red scare. I believe in due process, not guilt by association. Even considering that, it doesn't mean McCarthy was entirely wrong.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Dictatorships, by definition, are totalitarian, making them left-wing.
totalitarian = left-wing ???

to·tal·i·tar·i·an
relating to a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.

Totalitarian societies are hierarchies dominated by one political party and usually by a single leader. ... Two types of totalitarianism can sometimes be distinguished: Nazism and Fascism which evolved from "right-wing" extremism, and Communism, which evolved from "left-wing" extremism.



 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
totalitarian = left-wing ???

to·tal·i·tar·i·an
relating to a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.

Totalitarian societies are hierarchies dominated by one political party and usually by a single leader. ... Two types of totalitarianism can sometimes be distinguished: Nazism and Fascism which evolved from "right-wing" extremism, and Communism, which evolved from "left-wing" extremism.

Best case that was written by someone who has no understanding of the political spectrum. Worst it's a flat out lie meant to draw a connection between conservatives in the US and nazism. People often get confused when talking about conservatism vs liberalism and left-wing vs right-wing. But left-wing vs. right-wing is the difference between government control (left) and anarchy (right). Liberal vs conservative is relative based on where on the polictical spectrum a society falls.

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