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newfie

Well-Known Member
You mean like a kingdom exist to support the king? How stupid of an argument is that. trump was never a king and must follow the laws of this country.
that was a silly argument. no one called him a king. He was the president with certain undeniable powers.

you culties are getting more and more desperate as reality sets in.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
This is a perfect demonstration of the reason that I can't believe the anti-trumpites here are genuine people. This level denial and delusion just can't be real. Like, I mean, I've met anti-trumpites in real life, really deranged, but I can usually get them to admit that they have no real reasons for believing the incorrect things they believe. What happens here is psy-op level stuff.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
You mean like a kingdom exist to support the king? How stupid of an argument is that. trump was never a king and must follow the laws of this country.
Yet, the current administration ( which replaced Trump's ) does not bother to follow the laws of this country.
If it did the current head of the administration would have been removed for being mentally incapable of holding the Office.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
This is a perfect demonstration of the reason that I can't believe the anti-trumpites here are genuine people. This level denial and delusion just can't be real. Like, I mean, I've met anti-trumpites in real life, really deranged, but I can usually get them to admit that they have no real reasons for believing the incorrect things they believe. What happens here is psy-op level stuff.
That’s why I ignore them.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
More than a dozen former top Trump administration officials have refuted former President Donald Trump’s claim that he had a “standing order” stipulating that classified documents automatically became declassified when he took them from the Oval Office to his White House residence.

That's nice.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
More than a dozen former top Trump administration officials have refuted former President Donald Trump’s claim that he had a “standing order” stipulating that classified documents automatically became declassified when he took them from the Oval Office to his White House residence.

That's nice.
i saw Bolton trying to dispute it. Bolton is not involved in the classification process and would have no need to know.
Kash Patel was involved would have a need to know within his job role and clearly states that Trump not only had the standing order but Bush and Obama before him.

But in case I'm wrong list the person with a higher classification authority than Potus that can state he did not approve trumps standing order. you can't .
 

728ups

All Trash No Trailer
An official who investigated Hillary ( yeah that'll grab the Cults attention) says had Trump declassified the documents there would be evidence. The official says says it can't "just be an idea in his head"
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
John Kelly, who was Trump’s chief of staff from 2017 to 2019, told CNN that “nothing approaching an order that foolish was ever given” during his tenure.
“And I can’t imagine anyone that worked at the White House after me that would have simply shrugged their shoulders and allowed that order to go forward without dying in the ditch trying to stop it,” he added.
Mick Mulvaney, Kelly’s successor, also said he was not aware of any such order.
Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton called Trump’s claim “a complete fiction.” Olivia Troye, who was a homeland security adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, called the idea of a blanket declassification “ludicrous.”
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
John Kelly, who was Trump’s chief of staff from 2017 to 2019, told CNN that “nothing approaching an order that foolish was ever given” during his tenure.
“And I can’t imagine anyone that worked at the White House after me that would have simply shrugged their shoulders and allowed that order to go forward without dying in the ditch trying to stop it,” he added.
Mick Mulvaney, Kelly’s successor, also said he was not aware of any such order.
Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton called Trump’s claim “a complete fiction.” Olivia Troye, who was a homeland security adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, called the idea of a blanket declassification “ludicrous.”
I just linked you to declassification of documents.

So where are they?
The DOJ says official declassification matters, so prove it. Link me to the documents Trump declassified.

You can't. It's a farce. A witch hunt. Again.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
An official who investigated Hillary ( yeah that'll grab the Cults attention) says had Trump declassified the documents there would be evidence. The official says says it can't "just be an idea in his head"
a president has the ultimate declassification authority and does not have to seek approval of another person or a process to declassify a document.

everyone else in government does have to seek approval and would have to follow a specific process to do so.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
John Kelly, who was Trump’s chief of staff from 2017 to 2019, told CNN that “nothing approaching an order that foolish was ever given” during his tenure.
“And I can’t imagine anyone that worked at the White House after me that would have simply shrugged their shoulders and allowed that order to go forward without dying in the ditch trying to stop it,” he added.
Mick Mulvaney, Kelly’s successor, also said he was not aware of any such order.
Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton called Trump’s claim “a complete fiction.” Olivia Troye, who was a homeland security adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, called the idea of a blanket declassification “ludicrous.”
not aware of does not equate to never happened.

show me the guy that had a higher declassificaton authority that can dispute trumps standing order.
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
More than a dozen former top Trump administration officials have refuted former President Donald Trump’s claim that he had a “standing order” stipulating that classified documents automatically became declassified when he took them from the Oval Office to his White House residence.

That's nice.
An official who investigated Hillary ( yeah that'll grab the Cults attention) says had Trump declassified the documents there would be evidence. The official says says it can't "just be an idea in his head"
totally irrelevant because he, and every other President, does have that authority
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
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