FBI Raids Mar-a-lago

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Presidential Historian Michael Beschloss said Trumps claim of Obama having 33 million documents was wrong

Barack Obama has tens of millions of documents, and they are in a National Archives installation, Hoffman Estates, Ill., under armed guard with heavy surveillance, using the procedures that are supposed to be used for a former president,” he added.

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) has also debunked Trump’s claim, saying it maintains classified Obama records in a government facility in the Washington, D.C., area.

“As required by the [Presidential Records Act], former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration,” the agency said in a statement.

Beschloss on NBC also detailed how presidents before Obama handled their records, referencing former President Eisenhower’s documents being kept on a military base as one example.

“This is not something that we have seen before,” Beschloss said. “Don’t think this is normal procedure.”
 

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What types of documents?
I have posted this information several times, you need to keep up with the conversation. NDI and SCI documents under the Presidential Records act of 1978 must be stored in a secure government location ,regardless of classifacation. th NARA determines where they will be stored
 

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newfie

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The FBI said in now-unsealed court documents that it seized 11 sets of classified documents, including one set labeled as “various classified/TS/SCI documents,” meaning top secret/sensitive compartmentalized information.
what kind of clothing did they take? Milania's panties?
 

newfie

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I'm as amazed that noone picked up on the fact that whether the NDI information was classified or not its is illegal to have such documents .

Let me educate you again since you have trouble grasping this: Classification has no bearing on this. the ENTIRE reason for the raid were that SCI and NDI documents were possessed illegally and improperly stored. the end.
no no let me educate you . this is what you said. I realize you're spinning so much crap you forgot. so back to the NDI you mentioned.

are you now saying that documents declassified by POTUS are still classified and still retain criminal penalites.
if so good luck with that fishing expedition.
 

newfie

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I have posted this information several times, you need to keep up with the conversation. NDI and SCI documents under the Presidential Records act of 1978 must be stored in a secure government location ,regardless of classifacation. th NARA determines where they will be stored
You're saying declassified documents stored at an ex presidents home protected by the secret service reviewed by the FBI on june4th is not secure?
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

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no no let me educate you . this is what you said. I realize you're spinning so much crap you forgot. so back to the NDI you mentioned.

are you now saying that documents declassified by POTUS are still classified and still retain criminal penalites.
if so good luck with that fishing expedition.
Today's nutcase left wing narrative....

"It doesn't matter if the documents were classified because it's illegal to have classified documents"

.... I think we broke him.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
and you are a liar. I'm not surprised that you would insert more lies and misinformation into the conversation since you have nothing of merit to add to this discussion. Oh dear that may hurt your feelings . will there be another meltdown?

That guy ever added anything that wasn't a lie to the conversation? I must have missed that.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
i watched your cult leader last night. Zieg Heil Mein Fuhrer Biden

You mean the hissy fit Biden, representing the entirety of the establishment, threw because he/they still can't have their way and throw Trump in jail simply because they accuse him and his supporters of doing what they are guilty of. It's sad to see the leader of the free world melt down so pathetically because he and his entire base never mentally developed beyond the level of middle-school children.
 

newfie

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So I'm reading to summarize what the DOJ stole from the former president.
11179 documents with no classification
clothing ?
54 documents of which 31 were confidential and 18 labeled top secret.
48 empty folders labeled classified
41 empty folders labeled return to secretary / military aide

1600 news articles magazines and newspapers. ( trump appears to be collecting memorabilia. why the DOJ would take this stuff is beyond me)

this information appears to be different from what the DOJ claimed they had last week when they claimed 184 classified documents seized.

It also appears that all previously classified documents were found in either the storage locker or Trumps office.
the DOJ originally accused the trump folks of moving docs around in an effort to obstruct the search.
all documents being found in the two most likely places one would search seems to dispell that notion.
 
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