Former Comcast and Verizon Attorneys Now Manage the FCC and Are About to Kill the Internet

roadrunner2012

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Can you cite a source for that claim?
The source would be called REALITY.

Tell you what, name one, just one Republican Senator who supports Net Neutrality. Find one, and you can say I make stuff up.

Every time I have cited a source for my reality based statements, you people (yes, I said 'you people') reject it, so what difference does it make?
 

oldngray

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The source would be called REALITY.

Tell you what, name one, just one Republican Senator who supports Net Neutrality. Find one, and you can say I make stuff up.

Every time I have cited a source for my reality based statements, you people (yes, I said 'you people') reject it, so what difference does it make?

Nope, the ball is in your court. You made the claim you obviously can't support so there is no need for me to prove anything else.
 

roadrunner2012

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Nope, the ball is in your court. You made the claim you obviously can't support so there is no need for me to prove anything else.
What kind of logic is that? You say it's a lie, you prove me wrong. That's how it works.

Find one US Senator of the Republican Brand that supports Net Neutrality. Just one.

I say there are zero, even Rand Paul. You find one. I can't, and I've looked.

Bet you can't, either.

Ask the owner of the site if you don't believe me.
 

oldngray

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What kind of logic is that? You say it's a lie, you prove me wrong. That's how it works.

Find one US Senator of the Republican Brand that supports Net Neutrality. Just one.

I say there are zero, even Rand Paul. You find one. I can't, and I've looked.

Bet you can't, either.

Ask the owner of the site if you don't believe me.

I said for you to cite a source. When you couldn't then I called it a lie. Try to keep up.
 

roadrunner2012

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I said for you to cite a source. When you couldn't then I called it a lie. Try to keep up.
There is no source other than reality. Check the Senate voting records, Not one Republican Senator is in favor of Net Neutrality.

In America, you don't have to prove innocence. You called me a liar, prove it.
 

cheryl

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Opposing net neutrality is terrible politics, Republicans - The Week

The FCC is reviving tossed-out net neutrality rules. But this is a case where government regulation isn't spooky.

The political problem for Republicans is that net neutrality doesn't feel like Big Government stepping in to run your business. It may tie the hands of a few companies, but it lets consumers use the internet on (mostly) their own terms. They can watch Netflix or Hulu or YouTube as much as they want without fear that their ISP will throttle their service, or charge them extra.

In fact, the FCC is treading on questionable legal ground by not just declaring ISPs regulated public utilities, like telephone companies — a move within the agency's power, even according to the federal appellate court that tossed out the FCC's earlier net neutrality rules. Most net neutrality proponents, including Democrats, are urging the FCC to go this route, since it would increase the commission's authority to regulate ISPs.
 

oldngray

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There is no source other than reality. Check the Senate voting records, Not one Republican Senator is in favor of Net Neutrality.

In America, you don't have to prove innocence. You called me a liar, prove it.

You check the voting records. No Democrat has voted in favor of net neutrality either. A handful of Democratic Senators introduced a bill but Harry Reid has never let anyone vote on it. As Cheryl said, the real problem is with FCC exceeding its probable authority. Most in Senate want the problem fixed by throttling the FCC, not passing new laws.
 

bbsam

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You check the voting records. No Democrat has voted in favor of net neutrality either. A handful of Democratic Senators introduced a bill but Harry Reid has never let anyone vote on it. As Cheryl said, the real problem is with FCC exceeding its probable authority. Most in Senate want the problem fixed by throttling the FCC, not passing new laws.
With a Supreme Court that has ruled money to be speech and is on the verge of throwing out all campaign finance laws, what makes you think they would have a problem with the FCC allowing those with more money to have control of the internet and it's content? The question isn't whether the money is speech, the question is now whether money will be allowed to effectively drown out other speech. Think very carefully before you again utter "left wing media" or "main stream media". The rich and powerful in this country have been pushing politics ever farther right in this country for 30 years. They've done it with cable news and buying newspapers. They've benefitted from a right wing blogosphere and now aim to control it. It's just speech after all. The government can't regulate that now can they?
 

oldngray

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With a Supreme Court that has ruled money to be speech and is on the verge of throwing out all campaign finance laws, what makes you think they would have a problem with the FCC allowing those with more money to have control of the internet and it's content? The question isn't whether the money is speech, the question is now whether money will be allowed to effectively drown out other speech. Think very carefully before you again utter "left wing media" or "main stream media". The rich and powerful in this country have been pushing politics ever farther right in this country for 30 years. They've done it with cable news and buying newspapers. They've benefitted from a right wing blogosphere and now aim to control it. It's just speech after all. The government can't regulate that now can they?

I disagree, Media had slanted far to left and is now heading back closer to center but still leans to left. And the left is just as much about big money as the right, they just pretend to be for the little guy.
 

bbsam

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Obamacare based on a plan by the Heritage Foundation but lambasted as socialism is not getting closer to center. Decrying PBS and NPR as far left news outlets is not moving to the center. 23 televised Republican primary debates is not a center based media. The right and in a few cases the left have blurred the line between news and entertainment with an astonishing lack of integrity.
 

roadrunner2012

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oldngray, I expect an apology from you, not an excuse. Man up and admit you were wrong.

Not one Republican Senator.
 

roadrunner2012

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I disagree, Media had slanted far to left and is now heading back closer to center but still leans to left. And the left is just as much about big money as the right, they just pretend to be for the little guy.
You can't be serious. Media slants to the left? ABC, CBS, Fox and CNN all slant far right, NBC not so much, and MSNBC is center left.

Talk radio is all far right.

The only thing you are somewhat correct about is money rules, mainly because so many fall for the propaganda and vote against their personal interests.

Wish I could have a real time debate with you, but the queue and all doesn't allow that.
 

cheryl

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FCC Commissioner Clyburn issued a statement questioning Chairman Tom Wheeler's new rule and supporting TRUE open internet policy.

"Over 100,000 Americans have spoken.

And during the past few weeks, tens of thousands of consumers, companies, entrepreneurs, investors, schools, educators, healthcare providers and others have reached out to ask me to keep the Internet free and open.

While the calls, emails and letters are new, my commitment to Internet freedom is not. In fact, my public efforts to preserve a free and open Internet began many years ago."


COMMISSIONER JESSICA ROSENWORCEL is the second FCC commissioner to publicly affirm a commitment to open Internet policy and question Chairman Tom Wheeler's proposal.


"I also support an open Internet. So I have real concerns about FCC Chairman Wheeler’s proposal on network neutrality—which is before the agency right now.

To his credit, he has acknowledged that all options are on the table. This includes discussion about what a “commercially reasonable” Internet fast lane looks like. While I do not know now where this conversation will head on a substantive basis, I can tell you right now I have real concerns about process.

His proposal has unleashed a torrent of public response. Tens of thousands of e-mails,
hundreds of calls, commentary all across the Internet. We need to respect that input and we need time for that input"
 

cheryl

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My personal belief... American politics are toxic because we are lazy and get into tribal thinking. Both parties are full of poorly thought through policies that receive support based upon reactionary responses.

It is not about republican or democrat. We can all be more well informed than the simplified and biased info that those 2 political agendas try to feed us.
 
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