Four day work week

[Rhoderunner]

All our new 4x10 they have implemented this winter have floating days off. Long weekend comes around once a month for these folks.

 

[outtatime]

Isnt overtime computed over eight not over 40

On a 4x10 route it's computed after 10, hence the reason they like going to them to save OT.

 

[Purplepackage]

4x10 routes are a bunch of . You have guys working a 4x10 only getting 38 hours while half the station is working 9 hours a day and getting 45 hours a week.

The only time our 4x10s get week day OT is on Mondays when they might get an hour and a half of ot

 

[59 Dano]

Also if you are 4x10, when peak comes around they will try and make you switch back to 5x8 so they can save on OT. Either stay home on Mondays, or work for pure OT.

Try? They can do it as they see fit, with or without the courier's approval.

 

[59 Dano]

All our new 4x10 they have implemented this winter have floating days off. Long weekend comes around once a month for these folks.

That's what has been done in my stations that have or had a quantity 4 X 10 routes that was divisible by 4; even the cover guy got a turn at the long weekend.

 

[upsbeernut]

On a 4x10 route it's computed after 10, hence the reason they like going to them to save OT.

Fair days work for a fair days pay????

 

[McFeely]

4x10 routes are a bunch of . You have guys working a 4x10 only getting 38 hours while half the station is working 9 hours a day and getting 45 hours a week.

Depends on the route(s) and the station, I'm sure. Most of our 4x10 people are hovering right around 39-41 hours a week and some of our 5x8 couriers are working 35 hours (or less). We have a couple of FT couriers with routes who are getting minimums right now.

It's not a great time to be a swing in my station. Some of those guys come in to to FOs then get sent home by 10. We are simply overstaffed in my station.

 

[59 Dano]

It's not a great time to be a swing in my station. Some of those guys come in to to FOs then get sent home by 10. We are simply overstaffed in my station.

I'd love that. COE pay, baby!

 

[Purplepackage]

Depends on the route(s) and the station, I'm sure. Most of our 4x10 people are hovering right around 39-41 hours a week and some of our 5x8 couriers are working 35 hours (or less). We have a couple of FT couriers with routes who are getting minimums right now.

It's not a great time to be a swing in my station. Some of those guys come in to to FOs then get sent home by 10. We are simply overstaffed in my station.

It's the same at my station right now. Every week my manager is posting a lwop sheet or telling people to burn their personals or floating holidays so swings can work.

Meanwhile they hire 3 part timers to run pm pup routes while full time employees don't have anything to do. Overstating must be a company wide problem in certain districts

 

[Wally]

And yet nobody wanted a union?

 

[MAKAVELI]

And yet nobody wanted a union?

A lot more complicated than that.

 

[59 Dano]

It's the same at my station right now. Every week my manager is posting a lwop sheet or telling people to burn their personals or floating holidays so swings can work.

Meanwhile they hire 3 part timers to run pm pup routes while full time employees don't have anything to do. Overstating must be a company wide problem in certain districts

Are you guys hitting up the wish list before asking for LWOP volunteers?

 

[Operational needs]

And yet nobody wanted a union?

Maybe 20 years ago no one wanted a union. Ask today, and I bet you would get a much different response.

 

[Operational needs]

It's the same at my station right now. Every week my manager is posting a lwop sheet or telling people to burn their personals or floating holidays so swings can work.

Meanwhile they hire 3 part timers to run pm pup routes while full time employees don't have anything to do. Overstating must be a company wide problem in certain districts

We have never had LWOP at my station and have never been overstaffed. Turnover rate is too high.

 

[Cactus]

They tried the 4x10 thing here, it just didn't work I can't remember the specifics, but it was switched back after several months.

Probably insufficient staffing. That kills it faster than anything.

In this case it only lasted several months. How's the turnover at your station?

 

[Purplepackage]

We have never had LWOP at my station and have never been overstaffed. Turnover rate is too high.

Turnover isn't a word at my station. The mini hiring spree they just went on hiring 3 pm couriers is the first we hired anyone in over 6 years.

 

[Operational needs]

Turnover isn't a word at my station. The mini hiring spree they just went on hiring 3 pm couriers is the first we hired anyone in over 6 years.

They hire every few months at my station. Always new people coming in. Now I'm curious. I'll have to remember to look at the vacation seniority list to see how many people have been hired recently.

 

[Purplepackage]

They hire every few months at my station. Always new people coming in. Now I'm curious. I'll have to remember to look at the vacation seniority list to see how many people have been hired recently.

Our senior manager calls our station a fedex anomaly. Very small station (about 27-28 full routes) and we just recently created 3 new pm routes (we used to have 2 pm pup routes and one guy who worked a split with a pup route). 2 designated FO drivers lol. We are small but we service 2 counties and 2 very busy metro areas but no one leaves once they have the job

 

[Yomama11]

4x10 routes are a bunch of . You have guys working a 4x10 only getting 38 hours while half the station is working 9 hours a day and getting 45 hours a week.

The only time our 4x10s get week day OT is on Mondays when they might get an hour and a half of ot

Exactly I hate 4×10 routes..I'm a swing driver and have been stuck on a 4x10 routes since the new year..I struggle to get 37 hours a week..it's a bunch of crap. You do more work each day but you get paid less...70 deliveries and 35 pups and get a 9 hour day...while a 5x8 driver does 70 deliveries, helps out with 10 pups and gets 9 hours..except he gets 1 hour of ot each day..FEDEX IS GENIUS

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If 4 x 10 equals 40 how are you struggling to get 37 hours per week?