Does weight affect these numbers? Or is a 1lb package the same as a 69lb package? Or am I starting a fight?
Fred's letter.
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TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
thanks for your opinion but you are completely wrong
we start late because of late air arrivals, plain and simple; nobody wants this because it makes it more complicated for everyone
also it doesn't encourage the runners, i see the corporate report on bonus drivers and you can tell they're starting to lay down with the heavy days put on them
anyways, if 9.5 language was harsh enough, it would encourage more drivers to be put on road, which would get pickups in earlier, which would help the On Time Network, which would help airs from being late in the first place
weight is not factored unless it's an over 70
IMO, there SHOULD be an allowance if an address receives more than 3 pieces at a time, to account for possible hand cart use, but there isn't
PASinterference
Yes, I know I'm working late.
I appreciate your input. I honestly do, but our NDA is on our dock 1 hour before start time.
Besides that , our center manager constantly threatens a later start time if overallowed is up for the day. Your area may be different, but it's just a fact here.
The only cure for a late start here would be for mgmt to be forced to stay until the last driver is in. My center manager and on road are getting the hell out of Dodge no later than 4 pm.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
depends how much air you have to process, but usually 30min from door-to-done is normal
your center manager sounds like a total kook if he's threatening to move times up
PASinterference
Yes, I know I'm working late.
The air is processed and loaded in 10 -15 minutes. (Small ctr). Preloaders are all gone before we start.
And yes, my mgmt team is as crooked as a snake. Biggest waste of oxygen we've seen in years.
A lot of the discrepancies of time allowance MAY be smoothed with calculating weight x distance.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
You do realize, the letter from Fred Z.... is nothing more than political grandstanding ?
-Bug-
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
I "smoothed" them out myself by paying the allowances no mind at all, with the help of the "9.5 opt-in list".
These arbitrarily conjured "allowances" are nothing more than a mind control mechanism, created and manipulated by upper management, to hypnotize both driver and front line supervisor.
Divorce yourself from these numbers drivers and be liberated.
3 done 3 to go
In control of own destiny
You mean like when Hoffa fired O'Brien? Because he was to ruff on poor UPS. Come on!
Already do. IDGF is my slogan at UPS
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
anHOURover
Well-Known Member
Just like all your posting on here slugger.
You still support the concession dealing corporate lawyer. I pray every day that I meet you one day slugger.
FACT
anHOURover
Well-Known Member
Quote or it didn't happen
FACT
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Isn't that every letter any politician sends out.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Pretty much.
I wanted to respond earlier to your post, but it's a tough question.
Because any answer I give.... can be confused as favoring the company.
But I'll give it a shot. (and this is my opinion)
As someone who has been involved with contract negotiations, there is always
an advantage for the employer. They provide the jobs.
Granted.... UPS is on solid financial footing.
(We want that, don't we ?)
But, they aren't required to fork over the bulk of their profits through
the contract bargaining procedure, to benefit the hourly Union worker.
They are entitled to "equitable" contract language.
We have the right to strike. (by vote).
The company has a right to "lock out" (don't see that happening).
As I said before;
The letter Fred Z sent, was political grandstanding.
If he was serious about LOCAL 89 and Worldport problems....
He would have addressed it years ago.
Nice timing.
-Bug-
TheFigurehead
Well-Known Member
That's UPS in a nutshell, and, at least in my opinion, the source of all of their problems. Very few people in the chain of command are given any power to challenge any directive from above or implement any better way of doing things.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Always appreciate your answer. Thank you.
SafetyFirst
Well-Known Member
We have air problems now just like everyone else, but before this was the norm I had a center manager who moved our start time up 10 minutes and then after 2 days changed it back saying the building didn't perform and we had been threatened with making it even later if performance wasn't up to his standard (different center manager now)
We start later on Monday's now than we did previously the rest of the week, I've been into work before half an hour ahead of start time (if I don't leave home by a certain time I get stuck behind school buses) and there wasn't a preloader or a package left on the belt. Doesn't seem like there is a legitimate reason we can't start earlier at least on Monday
We start later on Monday's now than we did previously the rest of the week, I've been into work before half an hour ahead of start time (if I don't leave home by a certain time I get stuck behind school buses) and there wasn't a preloader or a package left on the belt. Doesn't seem like there is a legitimate reason we can't start earlier at least on Monday
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
We start at 9 on Monday's and 9:45 the rest of the week.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Just out of curiosity, do you guys have Sat. Ground?
