Global warming

[MAKAVELI]

They can still follow, you don't need a beaurocratic treaty for someone to follow you.

Some may follow Drumpf and say friend* it and friend* the environment.

 

[MAKAVELI]

They can still follow, you don't need a beaurocratic treaty for someone to follow you.

You might as well tear up your Teamster's contract with that thinking. Because UPS will just keep doing what's right for its employees.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

if leading in this area means we lose 6.5 million jobs while china and india are allowed to ramp up their coal burning until 2035 then it sounds like the leadership lost occurred when we negotiated this deal.

You don't know what you're talking about tieguy, as usual.

 

[1989]

Some may follow Drumpf and say friend* it and friend* the environment.

One does not have to glorify themselves. Just let you actions do the talking.

 

[MAKAVELI]

One does not have to glorify themselves. Just let you actions do the talking.

And his actions are definitely talking.

 

[1989]

You might as well tear up your Teamster's contract with that thinking. Because UPS will just keep doing what's right for its employees.

You are reading into something I did not say. I'll admit I know nothing about the treaty. Just what I've read here. Is it true that there are no consequences if it's not followed? Ups has held accountable for my hourly rate, bonus, 7 weeks vacation, optional days, sick days, pension contributions, etc.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

There are no consequences for failure to comply with the terms of the accord.

 

[MAKAVELI]

There are no consequences for failure to comply with the terms of the accord.

Which is another question as to why we would need to leave it.

 

[1989]

Which is another question as to why we would need to leave it.

Maybe cost? The US seems to flip the bill for everything.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Which is another question as to why we would need to leave it.

Leaving is more symbolic than substantive.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Maybe cost? The US seems to flip the bill for everything.

If it was non binding, what or who is forcing the US to pay anything?

 

[MAKAVELI]

Leaving is more symbolic than substantive.

Not symbolic, purely political.

 

[1989]

If it was non binding, what or who is forcing the US to pay anything?

Documentation, meetings, etc. why a 3 year wait to withdrawal?

 

[Brown echo]

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Documentation, meetings, etc. why a 3 year wait to withdrawal?

Why a 5 year wait to leave the EU?

 

[1989]

Why a 5 year wait to leave the EU?

Don't know. My guess is the EU is binding. They have to untangle a country's assets from the rest?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

 

[MAKAVELI]

Documentation, meetings, etc. why a 3 year wait to withdrawal?

Distraction from the Russian investigation.

 

[BrownArmy]

if leading in this area means we lose 6.5 million jobs while china and india are allowed to ramp up their coal burning until 2035 then it sounds like the leadership lost occurred when we negotiated this deal.

Fake numbers.

 

[tonyexpress]

Trump's Paris accord exit will save the environmental movement from itself

People who are really concerned with lowering emissions worldwide need to come to grips with the fact that international agreements where bad actors can't be effectively punished aren't the way to go. It may be intoxicating to see their activism rewarded with the pomp and ceremony of an accord like the Paris climate deal, but they're ultimately meaningless.

If the U.S. government wants to do something about the environment, it doesn't need to collude with foreign nations. It would be much better if it started with fixing its own house in a series of moves that conservatives and libertarians could join with liberals to support.