High Speed Rail

[The Other Side]

With they then replace the electronic timing with hourglasses and/or a sundial?

The pit lane speed is 55 mph, the electric motors will be able to meet this required speed.... understand the sport first, sport.

Peace.

p.s.

they will also be the first in open wheel racing to use self starters to make this possible. No more plug in starters.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The pit lane speed is 55 mph, the electric motors will be able to meet this required speed.... understand the sport first, sport.

Peace.

p.s.

they will also be the first in open wheel racing to use self starters to make this possible. No more plug in starters.

It was sarcasm--I'd expect you to know the difference.

 

[Babagounj]

Oh, I understand the sport.
And you did not answer my request, but tried to change the subject.
So I'll make it simple for you, since no one can hear an electric car when it is in electric mode, how will the car's pit crew along with the other pit crews know when a vehicle is in motion ?
And I understand that any pit crew member who gets hit, it is considered that crew member is at fault.

 

[moreluck]

A quiet race ???? You just lost all the Bubbas!!

 

[Buddybrown]

The world is changing, america needs to follow. Peace.

America is changing and we need new leadership so we can lead again....before it's too late!

 

[Babagounj]

Oooops............

Derailed bullet train coaches fall off bridge in east China​

WENZHOU, July 23 (Xinhua) -- Two coaches of a bullet train fell off a bridge after derailing in east China's Zhejiang Province late Saturday, local fire fighting sources said.
Witnesses said one of the coaches had fallen to ground, while the other one was hanging in the air.
The bridge is about 20 to 30 meters above the ground.
"Rescuers have dragged many passengers out of the coach falling on the ground," a witness told Xinhua over phone.
The details of casualties are unknown at the moment.
The train numbered D3115, running from the provincial capital Hangzhou to the southeastern city of Fuzhou, derailed at the section of Shuangyu Town in Wenzhou City of Zhejiang at 8:34 p.m., said fire fighters from Wenzhou.
The accident occurred after the train was hit by lightning and lost drive, and then rear-ended by another bullet train, the official microblog of Hangzhou TV "News 60 minutes" program quoted a local railway official as saying.

 

[wkmac]

La, la, la...waiting, waiting, waiting...

How bout some figures, TOS?

Waiting, waiting...

Wait no longer!

 

[raceanoncr]

Wait no longer!

Thanks, wkmac, but I'm waiting for figures AFTER the big 405 car derailment. Looks like he ain't gonna give em to me.

 

[raceanoncr]

Dont look now doom and gloomers, but metrolink reports that ridership INCREASED 50% during the Carmageddon over the weekend showing that residents will use the train system if it assists them in travel.

Its all mindset folks, and america needs to change theirs.

Peace.

No, it only shows that "residents will use the train system if" they are FORCED to.

Let's have the ridership figures NOW, after Carmaggedon.

La, la, la...waiting, waiting, waiting...

How bout some figures, TOS?

Waiting, waiting...

Thanks, wkmac, but I'm waiting for figures AFTER the big 405 car derailment. Looks like he ain't gonna give em to me.

MAN! What's it take to get this guy to answer? He's thrown in his left-wing opinion on other subjects since this but COMPLETELY ignored my request!

Well, I guess it goes unanswered. Again, the question WAS: "How bout some ridership figures on the metrolink AFTER Carmageddon on the great rail?"

To use a phrase that is common to TOS but bent a little: "Typical of Left-Wing brainwashing. No answer."

Peace and the smell of VP Racing Fuel

 

[Babagounj]

California High Speed Rail Project Triples in Projected Cost, Won’t Be Ready for 22 Years

Faster than a speeding bullet train, the cost of the state’s massive high-speed rail project has zoomed to nearly $100 billion — triple the estimate given to voters and more than enough to run the entire state government for a year.
What’s more, bullet trains won’t be up and running until at least 2033, much later than the original estimate of 2020, although that depends on the state finding the remaining 90 percent of the funds needed to complete the plan.
The new figures come from a final business plan to be unveiled by the California High-Speed Rail Authority on Tuesday, though some of the details were leaked to the media, including this newspaper, on Monday. Officials at the rail authority did not respond to repeated requests for comment Monday.
Gov. Jerry Brown on Tuesday was expected to endorse the long-awaited plan, the first major update to the project in two years and the last before the federal deadline to begin construction next year. But state legislators, who were already skeptical, will tear through the plan starting Tuesday before deciding whether to start building, or to kill the project.
The new business plan pegs the price tag at $98.5 billion, accounting for inflation — more than double the estimate of $42.6 billion from two years ago, when it was already the priciest public works development in the nation. It’s a little less than triple the estimate of $33.6 billion voters were told when they approved the project in 2008.

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[The Other Side]

California High Speed Rail Project Triples in Projected Cost, Won’t Be Ready for 22 Years

Faster than a speeding bullet train, the cost of the state’s massive high-speed rail project has zoomed to nearly $100 billion — triple the estimate given to voters and more than enough to run the entire state government for a year.
What’s more, bullet trains won’t be up and running until at least 2033, much later than the original estimate of 2020, although that depends on the state finding the remaining 90 percent of the funds needed to complete the plan.
The new figures come from a final business plan to be unveiled by the California High-Speed Rail Authority on Tuesday, though some of the details were leaked to the media, including this newspaper, on Monday. Officials at the rail authority did not respond to repeated requests for comment Monday.
Gov. Jerry Brown on Tuesday was expected to endorse the long-awaited plan, the first major update to the project in two years and the last before the federal deadline to begin construction next year. But state legislators, who were already skeptical, will tear through the plan starting Tuesday before deciding whether to start building, or to kill the project.
The new business plan pegs the price tag at $98.5 billion, accounting for inflation — more than double the estimate of $42.6 billion from two years ago, when it was already the priciest public works development in the nation. It’s a little less than triple the estimate of $33.6 billion voters were told when they approved the project in 2008.

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WOW, so you are telling us that the longer it takes to build, the more it will cost? Gee, who would have ever thought of that?

Maybe we shouldnt build it for more years, and wait till it will cost 500 billion.

Peace.

 

[moreluck]

WOW, so you are telling us that the longer it takes to build, the more it will cost? Gee, who would have ever thought of that?

Maybe we shouldnt build it for more years, and wait till it will cost 500 billion.

Peace.

Sounds like something Democratic California would be in favor of !!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Baba, you are from that area--what was the initial estimate and final bill for "The Big Dig"?

 

[Babagounj]

The cost still has not been finalized .
Due to cost cutting measures , they did not want to pay for all the underground lands to properly build it .
Let me explain; the proper way would be to dig out a tunnel and construct an inner boxed tunnel to hold the roadway.
They skipped the outer tunnel.
There are on going water leaks, causing large sections of overhead lighting structures to fall on to passing vehicles.
The road surface is not flat , but actually rises in spots, which in turn has caused many motorcyclists to become airborne and caused some deaths.
Now there are sink holes developing under the roadway.
The original cost was to have been much lower before every greedy group demanded their cut.
The BPD, the BFD, the State PD, Massport, The city of Boston all we first at the plate with their personal demands.
To answer your question the cost is over $14B and still climbing.

For a small fraction of that cost an alternative plan { the Boston By-Pass, building new bridges instead of tunnels } would have worked better and been done quicker.

 

[moreluck]

I liked the first letter in the O.C. Register today........

Is high-speed rail good for California? - Letters to the Editor : The Orange County Register

 

[moreluck]

Getting Nowhere, Very Fast - Thomas Sowell - Townhall Conservative

 

[moreluck]

Obama Spends $47B on Fast Train to Nowhere | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

 

[moreluck]

They're still talking about that stupid train to Vegas, starting it in Victorville.
L.A. people would have to drive 100 miles just to catch it. I can't envision the parking to be free. You can fly Southwest for $69 .....who's going to ride the darn thing.

We already have 40 years or so of Amtrak losing money. How does anyone even figure this will be something different? The I-15 to Vegas has been widened over the past few years with slow lanes for the hill climbing semis and there are no jams like there used to be with the slow drivers blocking 2 lanes. Now it's 3 lanes and a pleasant drive.

If I have to drive to Victorville to get the train, I'm grabbing a Starbucks and driving the rest of the way to Vegas At least I would have my own car to get around Vegas.

It's such a loser project and yet Obama and his people are pushing it. They're crazy!!
I think last I looked it was $4.9 billion and will get higher and it will never turn a profit, ever!!

 

[wkmac]

They're still talking about that stupid train to Vegas, starting it in Victorville.
L.A. people would have to drive 100 miles just to catch it. I can't envision the parking to be free. You can fly Southwest for $69 .....who's going to ride the darn thing.

We already have 40 years or so of Amtrak losing money. How does anyone even figure this will be something different? The I-15 to Vegas has been widened over the past few years with slow lanes for the hill climbing semis and there are no jams like there used to be with the slow drivers blocking 2 lanes. Now it's 3 lanes and a pleasant drive.

If I have to drive to Victorville to get the train, I'm grabbing a Starbucks and driving the rest of the way to Vegas At least I would have my own car to get around Vegas.

It's such a loser project and yet Obama and his people are pushing it. They're crazy!!
I think last I looked it was $4.9 billion and will get higher and it will never turn a profit, ever!!

Good ole' Crony or State Capitalism where the taxpayer shoulders the risk and private interests enjoy the profits.

An alliance of business and political rainmakers from The Strip to Capitol Hill is backing the project that could become the first high-speed system to break ground under President Barack Obama's push to modernize the U.S. rail network — and give the Democratic president's re-election prospects a lift in battleground Nevada.


Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has publicly blessed the train — it means jobs, he says — and it's cleared several regulatory hurdles in Washington.

Reid and other supporters point to research that shows 80,000 new jobs,


Victorville Mayor Ryan McEachron envisions a bustling transportation oasis with a hotel, restaurants, maybe even homes, on the proposed station site. He believes drivers can be enticed out of their cars, even in a region where the notion of rail travel can seem as distant as a New York subway.


The company is "going to have to market and market hard in order to get the ridership they need to support paying back the loan," the mayor says. "I think you can change the thinking."


Along with Reid, the president's most influential Democratic ally in Congress, the plan is being advanced by casino developer and contractor Anthony Marnell II, whose credits include building the Bellagio and Wynn Las Vegas and who heads Marnell Companies, the majority shareholder in DesertXpress; project consultant Sig Rogich, a Republican adviser to two presidential campaigns who founded Nevada's most influential lobbying and advertising company; and Canadian transportation giant Bombardier, a DesertXpress strategic adviser that wants to supply its rail cars.

Hey, I've got an idea. Let's blame those pinko, tree huggers for this public transportation and call it more social do-good liberalism and we need to elect more business minded republicans to stop this kind of crap!

And of course the otherside screams about the evils of our "free market" system!

Think people, THINK!

 

[moreluck]

You would think, since the benefit of this Vegas train would be all the casinos, that they could put up all the money to build this bullet train to bring the gamblers to their casinos. But, guess what? They know a losing proposition when they see one ! Obama & company do not!