HR and my union are clueless about 22.4 to Combos.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Ilovetoast, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Ilovetoast

    Ilovetoast Member

    I’m a part-time air driver but in reality I’m getting full-time hours around 45 hours a week.

    Today my HR approached me and said if I’m interested in the 22.4 jobs? It seems they are taking requests now.

    To me it seems like a piece of :censored2: job because I will no longer get my ground pay and I have to work all day on Saturday. The way they word it “You will drive when necessary” Scares the :censored2: out of me.

    The truth is I have been waiting for 22.3 combo job for 16 years. I asked the HR if I take this 22.4 Job Will I be able to apply for a 22.3 jobs in the future? They have no answer only that 22.3 jobs can become 22.4

    I think I might have to take this 22.4 job because I have a feeling Air drivers are going to be Extinct soon. I’m just hoping that I still have a chance to bid on a 22.3 job afterwards.

    Thanks guys If you know the answer!
  2. Just my opinion but you should probably take the 22.4 job. Why would the company create a 22.3 job to deliver air when they can pay a 22.4 driver around the same amount to do air and ground.
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  3. Ilovetoast

    Ilovetoast Member

    I agree, I might have to bite the bullet on this one . My true dream is to be an inside inside 22.3.
  4. If that opportunity arises bid on a 22. 3 job if it becomes available later on.
  5. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I must have missed something....

    Who is clueless ?
  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Most of the PT air drivers have been working 40 to 50+ hours a week for the last couple months along with the 22.3 air drivers. I believe they are going to be asked to be 22.4 or else lose all of the extra work. The $2k/wk paychecks are nice but getting real burned out. At the same time FT drivers are working 7 1/2 hrs and getting paid for 9 with their bonus.
  8. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    I thought air drivers a d 22.3 jobs were done?
  9. wilberforce15

    wilberforce15 Active Member

    We have a guy who gets about $70k a year to hang smalls bags on their racks at a snail's pace.

    There's a fine line between being pathetic and being a genius.
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  10. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    We have a couple guys who arent anywhere near top seniority who work 10 and 12 hours a day only doing misloads.
  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    PT air drivers at top FT driver rate? It is called "smart money" supposed to make the company work smarter to eliminate misloads. I have been making "smart money" for 25 years now. Would like to retire but I could be here another 25 years making "smart money".
  12. Package Stick

    Package Stick "Send it."

    Got a couple in my Hub. Also a 47-year part-timer, I have no idea what you'd make at that point, he's an irrg driver. He tells management to jump and they do lol.
  13. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    lol no. Full time drivers who should be running routes but only do misloads. Air drivers here are split, we have air drivers and air shuttle drivers. Makes zero sense.
  14. dudebro

    dudebro Well-Known Member

    We've had inside PTers with high seniority go over $100k with the hours they work during peak. Get that far up the seniority list and you get left alone mostly too.
  15. dudebro

    dudebro Well-Known Member

    6 hour day sorts back then, so this guy worked 9 driving around and picking up overgoods with OT after 5 hours, then double shift on the T sort from roughly Labor Day onward - you can rack them up fast.
  16. Making a 100k at top rate is around 2700 hours.
  17. dudebro

    dudebro Well-Known Member

    Sounds right - he worked 9 a day from Feb to Aug and 12 plus from Labor Day to the middle of Jan.
  18. FlipOldman

    FlipOldman New Member

    Don't do it. You've got a good gig right now, and you're going to lose that if you go 22.4.
  19. specter208

    specter208 Active Member

    I think 22.4 is guaranteed their driving rate even when working inside.
  20. beavis

    beavis Member

    What’s really pathetic is that hanging bags is tougher than my 22.3 job!