Impeachment Trial of The Don

[Old Man Jingles]

I’m seriously asking you. Does he fit your definition or not?

I've never considered it.
Probably not a racist ... but he may pick a minority for political reasons.

 

[El Correcto]

It's neither listed in the U.S. criminal code nor in the articles of impeachment. So tell me again what crime he's on trial for? By the way the GAO found seven instances that the Obama administration broke the law. Should Obama have been impeached?

I think Trump should be convicted personally.
He is a jackass and McConnell is a I’d like to see out of office.

The old guard doesn’t have any realistic goals for long term stability. They gave you a mascot to rally behind while they rob us blind running up the debt to enrich their donors and friends. You think Biden is corrupt? I agree. You don’t think Trump’s son has profited from his father’s connection and name since the presidency? I disagree.

Their deregulation efforts are being overseen by people with bad intentions, not good ones. People with vested interests in ing over Americans and leaving them with no legal recourse. People with vested interests in setting up avenues to the government teat.

Donald Trump has been a terrible President and will be looked back on as such. Right wing Populists are absolute garbage and you should keep an open mind to democrats if you really care about a populist appeal that will put money in your pocket from the government.

 

[El Correcto]

Hey at least you got angry Orange man to yell at the people you hate...

 

[El Correcto]

They aren’t tearing down the federal system. He isn’t draining the swamp. He is doing exactly what democrats will do. The democrats are offering you silly populists and big government types a bit more spit before they bend you over. Donald Trump is giving you what exactly? A wink and a nod? A tiny tax cut? Killing the Muslims? Keeping the beaners out?

This isn’t the right wing I want in this country, polluted with idiots who just want the system stacked more in their side’s favor. I want to see it decentralized and the unconstitutional police state apparatus dismantled. I want someone who says I don’t have the answer to your life’s problems, I’m just here to guarantee you got the freedoms to pursue those yourself.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

He used taxpayer money to pressure a foreign government to interfere in our election. I don’t care if that’s specifically listed anywhere in US criminal code, it’s a crime.

Wrong

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I want to see it decentralized and the unconstitutional police state apparatus dismantled. I want someone who says I don’t have the answer to your life’s problems, I’m just here to guarantee you got the freedoms to pursue those yourself.

Good luck with that

 

[El Correcto]

Good luck with that

I should probably just go back to not caring about politics. I thought the republicans were serious about federalism and the constitution.

sad.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

If the senate wants to judge the truth they should gather all available facts and evidence. To do otherwise is to facilitate a cover up regardless of this flimsy excuse.

So you're saying the house Democrats did not have enough evidence and are engaged in a cover up

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I should probably just go back to not caring about politics. I thought the republicans were serious about federalism and the constitution.

sad.

Lol.
They're not.
A vote for Republicans is a vote against Democrats..

 

[El Correcto]

Lol.
They're not.
A vote for Republicans is a vote against Democrats..

Hmmm fascists or commies.
I think I’ll just start voting for myself for now on.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Hmmm fascists or commies.
I think I’ll just start voting for myself for now on.

Facsists, really?
Lol, mkay then.

 

[El Correcto]

Facsists, really?
Lol, mkay then.

They are big government self described nationalists, constant war, police state surveillance and overreach, no real respect for the constitution, “America First”, continuing handing the executive branch the legislative branch duties..

I mean both sides are bad, Democrats are far worse and further down the authoritarian rabbit hole. But you honestly don’t see any signs of fascism emerging from the Republican Party?

Sure they aren’t full blown yet, but the structure is there.

 

[BrownArmy]

Wrong

You seem confused about facts, carry on.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You seem confused about facts, carry on.

Your opinion is not fact.
Typical demwit.

 

[El Correcto]

I mean think about it.
America was pretty divided following the impeachment’s of Nixon and Clinton, we went through an economic hardship giving a soapbox to the big government socialists, we also went through the worst terrorist attack maybe in history giving rise to nationalist military spirit and freedoms for safety guaranteed by the government exchange.

The divided population on both sides of the impeachments have slowly started embracing the fringes of their political wings moving in an authoritarian direction. They relish in having a strong man in office, executive orders are becoming common place and widely accepted as good things. The legislature is nothing more than opposition or complete obedience to the strong man in charge.

It really looks like we have all the makings of a fascist/commie authoritarian hole on our hands.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

They are big government self described nationalists, constant war, police state surveillance and overreach, no real respect for the constitution, “America First”, continuing handing the executive branch the legislative branch duties..

I mean both sides are bad, Democrats are far worse and further down the authoritarian rabbit hole. But you honestly don’t see any signs of fascism emerging from the Republican Party?

Sure they aren’t full blown yet, but the structure is there.

I don't see Republicans any differently than 20 years ago.

Democrats on the other hand have gone full blown communism.

I don't like the status quo but the stakes have become too high for me personally to vote third party. 2020 will be the first time in my life I vote Republican in the general presidential election.

 

[vantexan]

That is a very weak argument. It’s lawyer talk and if republicans use it on the campaign trail, they’ll get slaughtered for it.

No, the electorate sees this for what it is, a sham impeachment.

 

[vantexan]

I think Trump should be convicted personally.
He is a jackass and McConnell is a I’d like to see out of office.

The old guard doesn’t have any realistic goals for long term stability. They gave you a mascot to rally behind while they rob us blind running up the debt to enrich their donors and friends. You think Biden is corrupt? I agree. You don’t think Trump’s son has profited from his father’s connection and name since the presidency? I disagree.

Their deregulation efforts are being overseen by people with bad intentions, not good ones. People with vested interests in ing over Americans and leaving them with no legal recourse. People with vested interests in setting up avenues to the government teat.

Donald Trump has been a terrible President and will be looked back on as such. Right wing Populists are absolute garbage and you should keep an open mind to democrats if you really care about a populist appeal that will put money in your pocket from the government.

Apparently you think it's possible to put in a leader who'll make us all wealthy and if he doesn't he's a failure. About all any leader can do is push regulations that hamper business, or pull expensive regulations to create opportunities. Because people who have money aren't going to risk their capital to have their profits eaten up by the government. So we could have gone on as is with little opportunity and the government an ever increasing burden in our lives or we can have what we have now. Those that work can still benefit with better 401k's. Those who take risks and are diligent can see even better payoffs. About all we can hope for. And a damn sight better than it was.

 

[vantexan]

I mean think about it.
America was pretty divided following the impeachment’s of Nixon and Clinton, we went through an economic hardship giving a soapbox to the big government socialists, we also went through the worst terrorist attack maybe in history giving rise to nationalist military spirit and freedoms for safety guaranteed by the government exchange.

The divided population on both sides of the impeachments have slowly started embracing the fringes of their political wings moving in an authoritarian direction. They relish in having a strong man in office, executive orders are becoming common place and widely accepted as good things. The legislature is nothing more than opposition or complete obedience to the strong man in charge.

It really looks like we have all the makings of a fascist/commie authoritarian hole on our hands.

Nixon wasn't impeached, and Trump will leave office in either a year or in 5.

 

[El Correcto]

Apparently you think it's possible to put in a leader who'll make us all wealthy and if he doesn't he's a failure. About all any leader can do is push regulations that hamper business, or pull expensive regulations to create opportunities. Because people who have money aren't going to risk their capital to have their profits eaten up by the government. So we could have gone on as is with little opportunity and the government an ever increasing burden in our lives or we can have what we have now. Those that work can still benefit with better 401k's. Those who take risks and are diligent can see even better payoffs. About all we can hope for. And a damn sight better than it was.

I don’t want to vote for someone promising to make me wealthy. I don’t even vote for the people promising they’ll make the Christians treat me like they would anyone else or give lip service to my union job.

I vote for people I think will leave us alone and quit using the federal government as a giving tree, there to provide happiness and right all of societies wrongs.

Trump isn’t that guy and that’s why I didn’t vote for him and why I probably won’t vote for him again. I’m on and off the fence with the guy.