India 🇮🇳 vs Pakistan 🇵🇰 Can Trump stop it or make it worse ?

[Box Ox]

India and Pakistan are two nuclear powers. I’m pretty sure they will figure this out on their own.

They'd better or our customer service call wait times could get even longer.

 

[Thebrownblob]

They'd better or our customer service call wait times could get even longer.

Just turn it off and back on should fix it

 

[Next Day Err]

I’m assuming you mean Obama? Lol pity he didn’t call and ask you your opinion.

So Obama is right about everything?

 

[Next Day Err]

They'd better or our customer service call wait times could get even longer.

It's probably a UPS conspiracy theory to lay them off./

 

[Thebrownblob]

So Obama is right about everything?

No, but he was right about something

 

[Next Day Err]

No, but he was right about something

Right, because that's your opinion. He was right about some things that you agree with and wrong about other things you don't agree with.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Right, because that's your opinion. He was right about some things that you agree with and wrong about other things you don't agree with.

No, I think it’s pretty evident. He was correct about this. If Russia decides they want to take over Ukraine, nobody will stop them without an all out world war. Completely unnecessary and no reason to do that. Sorry you don’t understand that. The truth is the rest of the world understands that as well even if they’re uncomfortable admitting it which is why they have not been allowed to join NATO.

 

[Wally]

Those kids need to vent some of that energy every now and then. Nothing new or unusual.

 

[newfie]

Military needs $ to run. War or skirmishes are plantations of opportunity. Ukraine is winding so we/they/them need a sidebar until they figure next move. Our administration is a $ admin not a war admin. Or should I say not kinetic war.

your claim’s too narrow. Military funding isn’t just for battles—it keeps our forces prepared. Ukraine’s fight isn’t a random opportunity; it needs consistent aid to block Russia’s moves. Trump has shown he's not willing to provide that consistent aid forever. Saying the administration is only about money ignores its work in non-combat areas like cyberattacks, sanctions, and alliances. Whether it’s direct fighting or not, we can’t just sit back and wait for the next step.

 

[newfie]

Wouldn’t it be wise to try to at least mediate? They are both nuclear armed.

I’m assuming there is backdoor mediation happening.

they are and will provide mediation, talk does not cost us lives or money

 

[newfie]

Aid. We give them $3.8 billion in annual aid

per a memorandum of understanding signed by the Obama folks

 

[newfie]

Doesn't change the fact that the Trump White House continues aiding "endless billions to other countries' wars" as was suggested. He has and does.

subject to change per the DOGe effort

I disagree that that the dissolution of Ukraine wouldn't affect our relationship with Europe, an obvious and major strategic set of allies. I think those that agree with the assumption that Ukraine wasn't important to the United States were short-sighted on this front.

dem leadership has always justified cow towing to our allies as essential to our strategic interests. the result has been our allies do not meet their military committments choosing instead to use the money to promote their socialistic policies.

 

[vantexan]

Aid. We give them $3.8 billion in annual aid and have cumulatively given over $300 since the founding of that nation.

I'm not saying he should change it but Trump has changed a lot of American policy, he could change aid to any country.

You constantly engage in this cop-out rhetorical behavior as well as many others here. It's funny.

Glad you're amused. You keep wanting to blame Trump for everything you don't like even though that something.had nothing to do with him.

 

[vantexan]

Yes he is. Your forgot about the hotel he wants there in Gaza. Also he just did a nuclear deal with the Saudis. Also planning for his company digital dollar. He is not a war guy, he is a $ guy. This is general info.

Hotel in Gaza? You think Trump is backing Israel because he wants a Trump Tower in Gaza? What liberal rag did you read this general info in?

 

[vantexan]

What copout behavior is he engaging in? Israel is a strategic partner in an important to us area of the world.

Ukraine is not. It’s just that simple. Even Kamala Harris understood that.

If Ukraine was taken over by Russia tomorrow, it would change nothing for us.

If Israel was wiped off the map tomorrow we would definitely feel the ramifications of that.

India and Pakistan are two nuclear powers. I’m pretty sure they will figure this out on their own.. it’s amazing when both countries in an argument have nuclear weapons no one ever uses them. Even though everyone tells us the Muslims or really anyone other than us are crazy and will use it as the first chance they get.

The nukes over.in Pakistan and India keep their fighting conventional. But no one should allow the Iranians to get a nuclear bomb. They aren't trying to build them because they fear invasion by Israel.

 

[Next Day Err]

nobody will stop them

Ukraine has done a pretty good job at stopping them with our relatively small amount of aid. Sends a very strong message that we stand by friends and allies and won’t tolerate bull. Guess that’s about dead, though. Ah well.

 

[Next Day Err]

Glad you're amused. You keep wanting to blame Trump for everything you don't like even though that something.had nothing to do with him.

Yep, the dumb is very stupid and blameworthy.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Ukraine has done a pretty good job at stopping them with our relatively small amount of aid. Sends a very strong message that we stand by friends and allies and won’t tolerate bull. Guess that’s about dead, though. Ah well.

Well, I’m pretty sure Russia has held back quite a bit, but that’s beside the point. Ukraine is not. capable of securing their own borders without money and weapons for others. If they in fact, had some sort of usefulness to us, it would make sense for us to do that, but since they do not, I do not believe we should be giving them anything. Somehow, now they have become our dependent. With no benefit to us.

This is just reality. It’s nothing personal. It’s not a responsibility we should be and it’s clear by the way Zielinski has been acting. He feels entitled.

 

[Next Day Err]

Well, I’m pretty sure Russia has held back quite a bit

Really? They’ve lost what % of their invading force?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Really? They’ve lost what % of their invading force?

And they don’t care? The problem is the people were supposed to be supporting or no better than the Russian government. They don’t care about their people either. They don’t care about elections. They don’t care about jailing their political enemies. They don’t care about taking over the media in their country.

I’m really curious what you think we taught Russia.

They’re not giving the land nor never will.
There’s really no guarantees at this point Russia just doesn’t take all of Ukraine.

The whole problem with this war is there there’s never been any logical endpoint, only the desire by crazy people who pretend they’re going to teach Vladimir Putin lesson. The best and the absolute best we could hope for is it stops now.