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Brown Down

Well-Known Member
He very well might have a shot. The union plays the word of mouth card alot against management as long as it is documented with time and date. As for management asking if/how people voted it COULD be percieved as vote tampering. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Poor little Tyler Binder, should read the IBT constitution.

He keeps trying to blame Denis T, who is just doing as he was told.


Judicial Powers

Section 2(a)

"The General President shall have authority to interpret the Constitution and laws of the International Union, including the authority to interpret theBylaws of subordinate bodies, and to decide all questions of law thereunder between meetings of the General Executive Board."


https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf


All of these 7 IBT Vice President's who have written letters asking for an

emergency Executive Board meeting, are doing it for show.


Don't think Hoffa hasn't consulted with the IBT's legal team.



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Box Ox

What can be, unburdened by what has been.
Poor little Tyler Binder, should read the IBT constitution.

He keeps trying to blame Denis T, who is just doing as he was told.


Judicial Powers

Section 2(a)

"The General President shall have authority to interpret the Constitution and laws of the International Union, including the authority to interpret theBylaws of subordinate bodies, and to decide all questions of law thereunder between meetings of the General Executive Board."


https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf


All of these 7 IBT Vice President's who have written letters asking for an

emergency Executive Board meeting, are doing it for show.


Don't think Hoffa hasn't consulted with the IBT's legal team.



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Sure, the General President has the authority to make interpretations and decisions. The question everybody has right now is: Why make such interpretations and decisions that are clearly in favor of the Company and not the majority of voting members when he doesn't have to?
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Sure, the General President has the authority to make interpretations and decisions. The question everybody has right now is: Why make such interpretations and decisions that are clearly in favor of the Company and not the majority of voting members when he doesn't have to?


If people remember, the first thing the IBT did before contract negotiations

started was send UPS a copy of the IBT constitution. And they can read.


What were the other options ?

Call a strike.... when you have the potential for 120,000 non-voters cross

the picket line ? No one is to blame but the members.


Blame Ron Carey and TDU, for putting the 50% 2/3 language in the constitution.



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Box Ox

What can be, unburdened by what has been.
What were the other options ?

Call a strike.... when you have the potential for 120,000 non-voters cross

the picket line ? No one is to blame but the members.

Why call a strike? The Company never said it was a last/best offer. National leadership should put on their big boy pants and deal with the issues members have with the Contract.
 

bowhnterdon

Well-Known Member
If people remember, the first thing the IBT did before contract negotiations

started was send UPS a copy of the IBT constitution. And they can read.


What were the other options ?

Call a strike.... when you have the potential for 120,000 non-voters cross

the picket line ? No one is to blame but the members.


Blame Ron Carey and TDU, for putting the 50% 2/3 language in the constitution.



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Before the change, it was a super majority to vote down a contract,regardless of participation
 

Box Ox

What can be, unburdened by what has been.
The majority of the UPS members (non-voters) didn't have a problem with it.

How much easier could the IBT make it to vote ?

Not voting on something only means you didn’t vote on something. Not that you endorse the issue at hand.

And the ease of the voting process doesn’t really have anything to do with what leadership should do now anyway.
 
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