It ain’t over

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Time for change, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

     
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  2. Delivery!!!

    Delivery!!! Member

    Gave you a beer. This needed its own thread and not buried six pages into the other one I saw it in.
     
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  3. CalDrvr06

    CalDrvr06 Member

    I like this guy:thumbup1: Respect.
     
  4. Days

    Days Member

    Tyler Binder? Lol he tries
     
  5. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    If only our leadership tried half as hard....
     
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  6. Brown Down

    Brown Down Member

    He very well might have a shot. The union plays the word of mouth card alot against management as long as it is documented with time and date. As for management asking if/how people voted it COULD be percieved as vote tampering. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
     
  7. Delivery!!!

    Delivery!!! Member

    Are you?
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Poor little Tyler Binder, should read the IBT constitution.

    He keeps trying to blame Denis T, who is just doing as he was told.


    Judicial Powers

    Section 2(a)

    "The General President shall have authority to interpret the Constitution and laws of the International Union, including the authority to interpret theBylaws of subordinate bodies, and to decide all questions of law thereunder between meetings of the General Executive Board."


    https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf


    All of these 7 IBT Vice President's who have written letters asking for an

    emergency Executive Board meeting, are doing it for show.


    Don't think Hoffa hasn't consulted with the IBT's legal team.



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  9. Kanovic

    Kanovic My job is fun

    Of course he does. He is on a forum like you! HA
     
  10. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    It's starting to look like that's all the union is "...for show.".
     
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  11. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Sure, the General President has the authority to make interpretations and decisions. The question everybody has right now is: Why make such interpretations and decisions that are clearly in favor of the Company and not the majority of voting members when he doesn't have to?
     
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  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    If people remember, the first thing the IBT did before contract negotiations

    started was send UPS a copy of the IBT constitution. And they can read.


    What were the other options ?

    Call a strike.... when you have the potential for 120,000 non-voters cross

    the picket line ? No one is to blame but the members.


    Blame Ron Carey and TDU, for putting the 50% 2/3 language in the constitution.



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  13. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Why call a strike? The Company never said it was a last/best offer. National leadership should put on their big boy pants and deal with the issues members have with the Contract.
     
  14. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    The majority of the UPS members (non-voters) didn't have a problem with it.

    How much easier could the IBT make it to vote ?
     
  15. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Before the change, it was a super majority to vote down a contract,regardless of participation
     
  16. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    This Tyler B guy is a clown.
     
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  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    That being the case, the contract still would have passed.
     
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  18. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Not voting on something only means you didn’t vote on something. Not that you endorse the issue at hand.

    And the ease of the voting process doesn’t really have anything to do with what leadership should do now anyway.
     
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  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    So, the Union should capitulate to the demands of the minority ?
     
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  20. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    You can't assume the non-voters "...didn't have a problem with it.".

    Maybe the non-voters:
    -didn't know;
    -didn't care;
    -saw their efforts as fruitless or;
    -were misled by other influences.
     
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