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rickyb

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so recap. trump supported hanging of pence. pence, a political opportunist, asked for advice whether he should even certify the election. theres more too i will get back. america democracy very weak. you will probably have a dictator when your empire ends next 10 years.
 
oldngray

oldngray

nowhere special
rickyb said:
so recap. trump supported hanging of pence. pence, a political opportunist, asked for advice whether he should even certify the election. theres more too i will get back. america democracy very weak. you will probably have a dictator when your empire ends next 10 years.
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You are good at parroting talking points. Too bad they aren't true.
 
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rickyb

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u guys are so badly lied to u think jan 6 wasnt about trump being president for a second term even though he lost the electoral college. ive had conversations with well known members on here about that lol
 
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fishtm2001

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rickyb said:
u guys are so badly lied to u think jan 6 wasnt about trump being president for a second term even though he lost the electoral college. ive had conversations with well known members on here about that lol
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Those patriots were just on a friendly tour of the Capitol, don't you know?
 
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rickyb

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fishtm2001 said:
Those patriots were just on a friendly tour of the Capitol, don't you know?
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it had nothing to do with the speech trump just gave to them.

sad thing is they actually think the election was stolen. liberals thought russia stole election in 2016.

if people keep discrediting democracy, no one will support it and you will have something much worse.
 
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fishtm2001

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rickyb said:
it had nothing to do with the speech trump just gave to them.

sad thing is they actually think the election was stolen. liberals thought russia stole election in 2016.

if people keep discrediting democracy, no one will support it and you will have something much worse.
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Not too many libs I know thought Russia stole the 2016 election, but they definitely interfered.
 
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rickyb

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fishtm2001 said:
Not too many libs I know thought Russia stole the 2016 election, but they definitely interfered.
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the MSM was going crazy about it for years. i dont think the right wing went for it. dont think the left wing went for it, i thought it was to deflect from the fact that liberals like clintons and obamas sold out working class for decades.
 
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fishtm2001

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rickyb said:
it had nothing to do with the speech trump just gave to them.

sad thing is they actually think the election was stolen. liberals thought russia stole election in 2016.

if people keep discrediting democracy, no one will support it and you will have something much worse.
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funny stuff:

www.msnbc.com

Ron Johnson is still struggling to make his Jan. 6 mess go away

Ron Johnson said he received forged election materials from a GOP congressman. The GOP congressman said otherwise as this mess got a little messier.
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com
 
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fishtm2001

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rickyb said:
the MSM was going crazy about it for years. i dont think the right wing went for it. dont think the left wing went for it, i thought it was to deflect from the fact that liberals like clintons and obamas sold out working class for decades.
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"So this didn't happen overnight. Russian agents start making covert research visits to the United States all the way back in 2014. They used that information to then begin these social media accounts about different political issues, and they start gaining momentum, getting hundreds, then thousands, then hundreds of thousands of likes and follows, even gaining legitimacy and reach by getting retweets and engagement from people in President Trump's orbit, people like Kellyanne Conway, Donald Trump Jr., engaged with this content.

And then you think back to 2016 when these social media companies were basically saying, we don't have much of a role in election interference. And this report really shows that that's not true. This content was seen by as many as 126 million people on Facebook alone."

NPR's Miles Parks

"Over the course of the election, a wide-ranging group of Russians probed state voter databases for insecurities; hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee; released politically damaging information on the internet; spread propaganda on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram; staged rallies in Florida and Pennsylvania; set up meetings with members of the Trump campaign and its associates; and floated a business proposition for a skyscraper in Moscow to the Trump Organization."

"One of the most striking elements of Russia’s plan to influence the U.S. election did not involve votes at all, but rather agents with Russian military intelligence, known as GRU, hacking into the emails of staff working for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. These efforts, as laid out by Mueller in the key July 2018 indictment, began in earnest in March of 2016.

During that month, the agents sent emails that looked like Google security notifications to many Clinton campaign staffers and volunteers. But rather than helping them lock down their accounts, these emails instructed recipients to click a link to change their password, and when the user did so, this gave the Russian agents access to their accounts. Using this method, the GRU agents stole tens of thousands of emails from Clinton campaign staffers, including campaign chairman John Podesta.

The GRU agents then created a fake online group called Guccifer 2.0 and used that persona to share these emails with WikiLeaks. That group in turn released the stolen emails in the run up to the November election, creating frequent negative news cycles for Clinton and distracting from the message she hoped to send voters in the final days of the campaign."

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rickyb

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fishtm2001 said:
"So this didn't happen overnight. Russian agents start making covert research visits to the United States all the way back in 2014. They used that information to then begin these social media accounts about different political issues, and they start gaining momentum, getting hundreds, then thousands, then hundreds of thousands of likes and follows, even gaining legitimacy and reach by getting retweets and engagement from people in President Trump's orbit, people like Kellyanne Conway, Donald Trump Jr., engaged with this content.

And then you think back to 2016 when these social media companies were basically saying, we don't have much of a role in election interference. And this report really shows that that's not true. This content was seen by as many as 126 million people on Facebook alone."

NPR's Miles Parks

"Over the course of the election, a wide-ranging group of Russians probed state voter databases for insecurities; hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee; released politically damaging information on the internet; spread propaganda on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram; staged rallies in Florida and Pennsylvania; set up meetings with members of the Trump campaign and its associates; and floated a business proposition for a skyscraper in Moscow to the Trump Organization."

"One of the most striking elements of Russia’s plan to influence the U.S. election did not involve votes at all, but rather agents with Russian military intelligence, known as GRU, hacking into the emails of staff working for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. These efforts, as laid out by Mueller in the key July 2018 indictment, began in earnest in March of 2016.

During that month, the agents sent emails that looked like Google security notifications to many Clinton campaign staffers and volunteers. But rather than helping them lock down their accounts, these emails instructed recipients to click a link to change their password, and when the user did so, this gave the Russian agents access to their accounts. Using this method, the GRU agents stole tens of thousands of emails from Clinton campaign staffers, including campaign chairman John Podesta.

The GRU agents then created a fake online group called Guccifer 2.0 and used that persona to share these emails with WikiLeaks. That group in turn released the stolen emails in the run up to the November election, creating frequent negative news cycles for Clinton and distracting from the message she hoped to send voters in the final days of the campaign."

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its hard to imagine democrats wouldve been president for a 3rd term after obama did nothing but betray his promises.

trump didnt have to collude. russians will interfere regardless.

bill clinton was the first democratic president to act like a republican. he sold out the working class. so its unlikely his corrupt war mongering wife was going to be president. most guys i listened to got it wrong and thought trump would lose.

the MSM wasted 4 years about collusion instead of talking about worker issues which is what trump was usually attacking while he was in office.

the whole thing was just to cover up democrats having sold out working class for decades. maybe starting half way through carters term.
 
TearsInRain

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
fishtm2001 said:
"So this didn't happen overnight. Russian agents start making covert research visits to the United States all the way back in 2014. They used that information to then begin these social media accounts about different political issues, and they start gaining momentum, getting hundreds, then thousands, then hundreds of thousands of likes and follows, even gaining legitimacy and reach by getting retweets and engagement from people in President Trump's orbit, people like Kellyanne Conway, Donald Trump Jr., engaged with this content.

And then you think back to 2016 when these social media companies were basically saying, we don't have much of a role in election interference. And this report really shows that that's not true. This content was seen by as many as 126 million people on Facebook alone."

NPR's Miles Parks

"Over the course of the election, a wide-ranging group of Russians probed state voter databases for insecurities; hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee; released politically damaging information on the internet; spread propaganda on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram; staged rallies in Florida and Pennsylvania; set up meetings with members of the Trump campaign and its associates; and floated a business proposition for a skyscraper in Moscow to the Trump Organization."

"One of the most striking elements of Russia’s plan to influence the U.S. election did not involve votes at all, but rather agents with Russian military intelligence, known as GRU, hacking into the emails of staff working for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. These efforts, as laid out by Mueller in the key July 2018 indictment, began in earnest in March of 2016.

During that month, the agents sent emails that looked like Google security notifications to many Clinton campaign staffers and volunteers. But rather than helping them lock down their accounts, these emails instructed recipients to click a link to change their password, and when the user did so, this gave the Russian agents access to their accounts. Using this method, the GRU agents stole tens of thousands of emails from Clinton campaign staffers, including campaign chairman John Podesta.

The GRU agents then created a fake online group called Guccifer 2.0 and used that persona to share these emails with WikiLeaks. That group in turn released the stolen emails in the run up to the November election, creating frequent negative news cycles for Clinton and distracting from the message she hoped to send voters in the final days of the campaign."

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nobody gave a :censored2: about those emails, people have hated hillary for DECADES

she's an untrustworthy, unlikeable :censored2: of a woman
 
Re-Raise

Re-Raise

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TearsInRain said:
nobody gave a :censored2: about those emails, people have hated hillary for DECADES

she's an untrustworthy, unlikeable :censored2: of a woman
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There were drivers at my center that were on the fence in 2016 and when Comey said he found information on Abedeen‘s laptop, they said that meant it had to be very incriminating for Clinton.

So it absolutely swung a few votes at the end. In an election that close it made a difference.

That coupled with the release of the anti Bernie emails released by Wikileaks that split the Democrats.
 

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