Just got forced in saturday
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Thebrownblob
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You have very poor leader ship at your local if that’s happening. Not one person has been suspended at my local for calling in Saturdays only. They have tried to give discipline and we have successfully had thrown out it at every level hearing.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
Really. Can not be forced into a 6th punch in my old local.Really ?
You might want to brush up on all of the 40 supplements and riders....
UPS Agreements, 2018 – 2023
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Thebrownblob
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Central says you can be forced, they just have to pay the appropriate rate. The argument we use is the company has failed to keep their end of the bargain and properly staff The operation going on four years. 22.4 are supposed to be 25% they are less than 10% now. Regular package car drivers are being forced six days with only one day off 22.4 Drivers are only working five the part of the contract was to reduce regular package car hours not expand, it’s aReally ?
You might want to brush up on all of the 40 supplements and riders....
UPS Agreements, 2018 – 2023
The following links are to PDF files of the printed contract books. These documents are also available, in searchable format, on the UPS Rising app, available o
show either way.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
I would have a hard time believing any panel would uphold a termination of a drivers who has excellent attendance Monday through Friday and is being forced six days a week years on end. That is really an undue burden on a service providers family and life.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Yep.
As long as they post a start time the preceding week. They have to exhaust using pre-seniority, vacation
replacements, seasonal drivers, and then.... in reverse seniority order.
Newbies aren't getting the day off, because they don't know a route.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
Wrong. Can not force a 6th punch in Local 344.Yep.
As long as they post a start time the preceding week. They have to exhaust using pre-seniority, vacation
replacements, seasonal drivers, and then.... in reverse seniority order.
Newbies aren't getting the day off, because they don't know a route.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Blob’s going in today voluntarily vacation next week I’ll probably regret itYep.
As long as they post a start time the preceding week. They have to exhaust using pre-seniority, vacation
replacements, seasonal drivers, and then.... in reverse seniority order.
Newbies aren't getting the day off, because they don't know a route.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Might want to read Section 14 & 15 of the Local 344 Rider.
Just say'n....
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
So many people tell me they can’t be forced, there’s a difference between can’t and shouldn’t, and there’s a difference between if they actually follow through with discipline and if it will be upheld. My personal opinion is we have a very good argument if we ever go to panel but that’s just my personal opinion and it’s meaningless until a decision is made. We are in the fourth year of a five-year contract and so far it’s been a paper Tiger they really cannot enforce it. So far….
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
DumbTruckDriver
Allergic to cardboard.
Where do I get UPS socks?
Whither
Scofflaw
I have always pointed out to members: even contract language that puts the screws to us, e.g., (allowing forced 6 punches) doesn't exist in a vacuum. The company resorts to forcing because they are in a position of weakness. They need us to put a bandage on their staffing problem. If the company began firing otherwise reliable employees for not working 6 punches, that would only aggravate their staffing problem.
Additionally, if the company played hardball with a reliable employee and pressed a termination based solely on 6 punch attendance, then they would also have to risk losing at a higher level of the grievance procedure. The supplements I've read do not address whether or not allowing forced 6 punches also means allowing them to the point of effectively turning the job into a 6 day a week job. The glaring details of the company's habitual staffing problem would come out. I could be wrong, but I think the company would have a hard time winning such a case ... and I think they know it.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
There is a difference between being scheduled.... and being called in.
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
That's the attitude that is going to make a PT air driver $90k this year.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Article 3 section 7 if this is ongoing in your building. This is the language that the company agrees to maintain proper staffing levels.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
Wrong. They lost that argument through the grievance procedure. They can not force a 6th punch and they know it.
Management pleads, begs and tries to bribe with offers of grills, coolers, etc.
DumbTruckDriver
Allergic to cardboard.
I’ve never been forced in on a sixth punch, but I feel like the proper response is to drop the anchor.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Ahoy matey!
