Just had masks re- implemented. Any way to be rid of them?

Brown Buddy

UPSnBrowns
Union isn’t going to help you. Ask for doctors note or try to fight and loose. Maybe just stay home until things change. Nobody loves mask and some hubs don’t mind when others demand and make them be worn
 

AKCoverMan

Well-Known Member
I think the best way for us to stop having to wear masks is for every one to just get the darn vaccine.
Can you tell me the long term effects of this new vaccine technology? After two or three or how ever many they want us to eventually take?

I was originally excited for the vax to be widely available.. remember when it was going to be “impossible” to develop it without years of research. Then suddenly we had it but it was in very limited supply and everyone was mad about that because of course enough doses should be available immediately! 🤯

Now it’s available almost everywhere you look. But there are still cases both vaxed and unvaxed even though CNN keeps blasting out that 99.999% of cases are unvax and hospitals are overflowing but of course consider the source. A local reporter here started a daily report of the procedures being scheduled at our local hospital and half sore elective so I’m not buying the “sick people left to die in the parking lot” fib.

No, vexing won’t stop the control-freak leaders from knee jerking toward forcing us to wear the obedience mussels as long as they can point at any cases of covid to justify their tyranny.

In the big city our hub is located in the assembly is trying to force a city wide mask mandate public testimony has gone on for days. The liberal who sponsored the bill won’t show up at the meetings in person until everyone wears a mask,,, in other words she want to enact the ordinance prior to even conducting due process required by the city charter. All over something that obviously does nothing,
 

BrownSnowFlake

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Oxygen and carbon dioxide are two atoms (O2) and three atoms (CO2) in size. That's about 0.00015 micro-meters. COVID-19 is enveloped in a virus that is approximately 0.1 micro-meters in size. In other words, COVID-19 is about 1,000 times larger than oxygen or carbon dioxide, allowing many of the virus particles to be blocked by the mask while smaller O2 and CO2 particles are able to pass through.
Seems like the effectiveness of a cloth mask is limited at best. Probably helps a little if you're in Walmart for 10 minutes. Probably doesn't matter much if you're in the same enclosed space with a bunch of other people for a 4 or 8 hour shift.

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PCM Troll

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I think the best way for us to stop having to wear masks is for every one to just get the darn vaccine.
If everyone got "the vaccine", it still wouldn't stop people from getting sick, the virus from spreading, or hospitalizations which means you would still have to wear a mask.
 

PCM Troll

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Don't expect the union to help anyone who does not want the shot. If they were going to help, it would have been one of the talking points of the debates.
 

freehoodies

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Can you tell me the long term effects of this new vaccine technology? After two or three or how ever many they want us to eventually take?

I was originally excited for the vax to be widely available.. remember when it was going to be “impossible” to develop it without years of research. Then suddenly we had it but it was in very limited supply and everyone was mad about that because of course enough doses should be available immediately! 🤯

Now it’s available almost everywhere you look. But there are still cases both vaxed and unvaxed even though CNN keeps blasting out that 99.999% of cases are unvax and hospitals are overflowing but of course consider the source. A local reporter here started a daily report of the procedures being scheduled at our local hospital and half sore elective so I’m not buying the “sick people left to die in the parking lot” fib.

No, vexing won’t stop the control-freak leaders from knee jerking toward forcing us to wear the obedience mussels as long as they can point at any cases of covid to justify their tyranny.

In the big city our hub is located in the assembly is trying to force a city wide mask mandate public testimony has gone on for days. The liberal who sponsored the bill won’t show up at the meetings in person until everyone wears a mask,,, in other words she want to enact the ordinance prior to even conducting due process required by the city charter. All over something that obviously does nothing,
Michael Osterholm, the director of the National Institute for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said on the Joe Rogan podcast in March 2020 that masks are not effective in stopping transmission of influenza like illnesses like covid, and likely increase the transmission of disease because of improper use, face touching, and reusing of the same mask without proper washing between uses.

The guy quoted a handful of studies, but literally all of the over 50 studies by over 20 different countries over the last 25 years came to the same conclusion (except for a few pushed out by china in the last year).

So either the entire global scientific and medical community conspired to hide how effective masks are at stopping flu like illnesses, working together over the past 25 years to all come up with similar results to their tests (2%~ reduction in viral sized particles, any positive effect outweighed by face touching and improper mask use)-

Or the entire global scientific community is so gloriously inept that even well established, peer reviewed studies forming scientific consensus over decades cannot be trusted.

People pointing to quack studies, not peer reviewed or posted in trusted scientific journals, to support mask mandates deserve all of the ridicule they get.

But unfortunately most people don’t know how to tell a good study from a bad one, and just read the headline “study shows Blahblahblah” and accept it as fact without any closer look.
 

Poop Head

Judge me.
Michael Osterholm, the director of the National Institute for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said on the Joe Rogan podcast in March 2020 that masks are not effective in stopping transmission of influenza like illnesses like covid, and likely increase the transmission of disease because of improper use, face touching, and reusing of the same mask without proper washing between uses.

The guy quoted a handful of studies, but literally all of the over 50 studies by over 20 different countries over the last 25 years came to the same conclusion (except for a few pushed out by china in the last year).

So either the entire global scientific and medical community conspired to hide how effective masks are at stopping flu like illnesses, working together over the past 25 years to all come up with similar results to their tests (2%~ reduction in viral sized particles, any positive effect outweighed by face touching and improper mask use)-

Or the entire global scientific community is so gloriously inept that even well established, peer reviewed studies forming scientific consensus over decades cannot be trusted.

People pointing to quack studies, not peer reviewed or posted in trusted scientific journals, to support mask mandates deserve all of the ridicule they get.

But unfortunately most people don’t know how to tell a good study from a bad one, and just read the headline “study shows Blahblahblah” and accept it as fact without any closer look.
@zub said exactly this right when this :censored2: kicked off.
 

watdaflock?

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There is not a whole lot of science to back up the use of masks to prevent airborne illnesses and more on the side that prolonged usage is deleterious.
What harm comes from prolonged usage? We have plenty of scientific evidence that masks work, along with epidemiological evidence. Mask mandates led to a slowdown in daily COVID-19 growth rates. Simple as that.
 
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