Ken H to debate Fred Z

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Z didn't ask for a debate. The rules require a debate.

Obviously you didn't read the letter?

 

[Instigator]

Obviously you didn't read the letter?

Obviously you didn't read the rules. They are posted at ibtvote.org

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The rules require a debate.

Yep.

https://www.ibtvote.org/files/CandidatesForumNotice080316.pdf

hall was sent to cover Jr in the last debate. What's the excuse now? He won't "lower" himself to debate? It's his pattern of no shows

He never debated Tom "Lead-the-Dumb" either.... twice.

It gains H zero to debate. So why entertain it. Z "has to" debate. H doesn't. Both sides are political strategies.

Z could send fat Timmy.

Another reason I will never vote for H. He is telling us he doesn't care.

Nah.

It's a show of confidence.... for a forgone conclusion.

Not likely, as Ken wouldn't want the audience seeing them helping him down off of the milk crate he will be standing on in order to see over the podium.
He is a very petite fella, with delicate features.

He's taller than his Dad was.

His decision not to show up further supports my contention that he will win and then immediately resign.

Dave, and his crystal ball.


That observation, would go hand-in-hand.... with the whole 2 tier wages for pkg car drivers.

You "predicted" that for the last 2 contracts. Keep trying though.



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[BigUnionGuy]

Obviously you didn't read the letter?

The letter was just a ploy. (for his uneducated followers)

Z was playing games. He knows better.



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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You are the most arrogant person that I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

 

[Instigator]

The letter was just a ploy. (for his uneducated followers)

Z was playing games. He knows better.



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It wasn't a game. Z wanted to debate H prior to the convention and H declined. Local 344 in Milwaukee invited Z and H to debate in front of their members. H declined. H has already informed the Election Supervisor he will not participate in this debate. It's not a game, H won't debate. 3 times you are a loser

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You are the most arrogant person that I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

You're not the first person to say that.


But, when it comes down to it....

Who ya gonna call, Ghostbusters ??


"You might not like what I say.... but, I always tell the truth."


Unless you weren't paying attention, I have sided with you before.

And knowing that.... I vigorously defend everyone.

Even people that don't like me.



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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Two tiered will be a reality.

Hoffa will win in a walk, resign and pass the baton to Hall.

2018 will be one of the most contentious contract years in recent history.

 

[10 point]

It gains H zero to debate. So why entertain it. Z "has to" debate. H doesn't. Both sides are political strategies.

Yep. Gains nothing to stay home.
Loses ground when he shows up?
I finally got it.
Thx for the clarification.

 

[10 point]

I can't wait to hear the sales pitch.

 

[Coldworld]

Two tiered will be a reality.

H will win in a walk, resign and pass the baton to hall.

2018 will be one of the most contentious contract years in recent history.

No, nope, and negAtive ghostrider... Next!!!!!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I can't wait to hear the sales pitch.

From whom ?

And what for ??

 

[10 point]

From whom ?

And what for ??

 

[10 point]

Two tiered will be a reality.

H will win in a walk, resign and pass the baton to hall.

2018 will be one of the most contentious contract years in recent history.

You going to cross the picket line?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You going to cross the picket line?

Can retirees do that?

 

[Lead Belly]

Can't wait!!!

 

[10 point]

Can retirees do that?

If you're a scab.

 

[Coldworld]

You going to cross the picket line?

Can someone tel him we already have 2 tier wages... Hell its probably 4 or 5 tier now.. Lol

 

[10 point]

Two tiered will be a reality.

H will win in a walk, resign and pass the baton to hall.

2018 will be one of the most contentious contract years in recent history.

You said it would be one of the most contentious contracts and I'm thinking about 1997 thing the most contentious one I worked through.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Can someone tel him we already have 2 tier wages... Hell its probably 4 or 5 tier now.. Lol

For drivers.

TTKU