oldngray
nowhere special
All Sullivan can do now is delay the inevitable. He is dancing a thin line where he could lose his job if he goes too far.
Looks like Gen. Flynn was framed.
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fishtm2001
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There seems to be a simple reason Flynn was regularly being unmasked by Obama administration officials — he was engaging in behavior that merited unmasking requests.
No, he wasn't. The Peter Strzok notes that were just released were from a meeting in the White House with Obama and Biden present. Strzok noted that Flynn's calls to the Russian ambassador were legitimate. It's what positions like Flynn's do during an administration transition. In that meeting Biden suggested looking at using the Logan Act against Flynn. They were literally discussing what to come up with to get Flynn after the initial FBI interview turned up nothing wrong. It's why the prosecution requested the judge to dismiss the case and the appeals court panel ordered the judge to do so. They have compelling evidence that the FBI under direction of the previous administration attempted, and succeeded, in getting Flynn removed and falsely accused and tried.
Furthermore many of the unmasking requests were from officials who weren't in the intelligence services. It was an abuse of power and a violation of Flynn's rights.
It will be fine
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You do understand they didn’t know it was Flynn when they made the requests, right? That’s the “masking” part.
You do understand that the government monitors foreign nationals and when said foreign nationals are speaking to an American citizen the American citizen's identity, which the government knows, is kept confidential, or "masked" to protect that citizen's rights under the law. "Unmasking" is the process of getting the FISA court's permission to make the U.S. citizen's identity public. Unmasking Flynn by multiple agencies was an attempt to make him look guilty of something. Tell me what reason would Samantha Power, the U.N. ambassador have for requesting an unmasking? She and multiple others who don't have a legal standing for such requests got them anyways from a rubber stamp court.
It will be fine
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Unmasking doesn’t make the us citizen’s identity public.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
So what you are saying is that discovery of "unmasking" YEARS LATER makes it ok and not a crime to LIE to the FBI.
Got it!
You're not getting it. Multiple agencies that didn't have a need to know sought to unmask Flynn and ultimately his name was smeared on the media with accusations of treason. Wouldn't have happened if his identity had been kept masked. He didn't do anything that required unmasking.
Not at all. His initial interviewers said he didn't lie. Agent in charge Peter Strzok changed his 302's to look like Flynn lied. Strzok said in his own notes that calls between Flynn and the Russian ambassador were legit but that Biden suggested using the Logan Act and going after Flynn as an unregistered agent of the Russian government. Which got further conflated into possible treason and was leaked to the media. They tried to destroy him and brought the full weight of the government down on him. They were trying to get Trump and Flynn was in the way. You may disagree, you may call me a liar, but the appeals court agreed with the prosecution that the government acted inappropriately and there was no basis for the prosecution. Thus they are ordering the highly partisan judge to dismiss the case.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
The initial interview was done before the FBI had the tapes that proved he lied. So yeah, they didn't know he had lied and said so. Therefore you are correct, I am saying point blank you, just like Flynn, lie!
The appeals court did not say the government acted inappropriately, this is another one of your lies!!
The appeals court made a ruling on procedure! They effectively said if the AG, who has become the personal bitch of the president, wants to intervene and get tRump friends off even after pleading guilty TWICE a judge has no say.
Sidebar, the ruling will go to the full court, not just the 3 judges which ruled 2-1. Interesting the 2 were appointed by Republican presidents and 1 of those was chosen by Flynn's friend, tRump himself!I
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Nice try though!
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Lol.
Democrats are so upset.
Barack Hussein Obama will go down as the most corrupt president in history. Total loser! Sad!
Democrats are so upset.
Barack Hussein Obama will go down as the most corrupt president in history. Total loser! Sad!
It's also extraordinary that a judge interjects himself into a case and refuses a prosecutor's request to dismiss. Let it go to the full court. They will find just like the 3 judge panel found, that the FBI acted inappropriately and in light of that misconduct the prosecutor was correct to request dismissal. As to your allegations, Chief Justice Roberts was a Bush appointee who sided with the liberal judges on Obamacare. Gay marriage was passed under this conservative court. Roberts and Gorsuch just sided with the liberal judges about discrimination against gays in the workplace. Kavanaugh took the liberal side on a case not long ago. You can cast aspersions all you want but everyone knows when it comes to judicial activism it's at it's worst by far with the 9th Circuit based in San Francisco. But you'll never admit to that.
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And P.S. Flynn only lied when he accepted a plea deal to get the government off his back.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Be careful here ... Strzok is not exactly a believable witness.
Furthermore, he has not testified these are his notes and they are accurate.
This guy is sleazier than Slick Willy!
Strzok was the agent in charge, one of the highest ranking members of the FBI. It was his discovered texts with Lisa Page, his FBI lawyer girlfriend, that got the whole investigation started into the behind the scenes machinations with Comey, McCabe and others and their FISA court deceptions with the Steele dossier among other things. His notes from the meeting with Obama and Biden and others were recently turned up in a file found by the John Durham federal investigation.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Judge refuses to dismiss Flynn case, petitions full appellate court
Judge Emmett Sullivan is appealing for a review of a 3-judge panel's decision urging a dismissal of the case against former national security advisor Michael Flynn.
Washington, D.C. federal District Judge Emmett Sullivan is refusing to dismiss the criminal case against former national security advisor Michael Flynn, and is now arguing that the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals erred when it ordered him to do so last month in a 2-1 ruling.
Sullivan, through his attorney Beth Wilkinson, filed a petition on Thursday for a so-called "en banc" review by the entire D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, arguing that the three-judge panel was improperly trying to force the district court "to grant a motion [to dismiss] it had not yet resolved in reliance on arguments never presented to the district court."
An option that General Flynn now has is to sue everyone who was part of the railroad job against him. He could seek to have all the money he paid to defend himself { he was billed for $6.7M by Covington & Burling LLP ( which Eric holder is a partner ) }. Because all those people and agencies have admitted to working in bad faith against him. Winning such a law suit would defeat Judge's Sullivan actions.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Judge refuses to dismiss Flynn case, petitions full appellate court
Judge Emmett Sullivan is appealing for a review of a 3-judge panel's decision urging a dismissal of the case against former national security advisor Michael Flynn.www.foxnews.com
Washington, D.C. federal District Judge Emmett Sullivan is refusing to dismiss the criminal case against former national security advisor Michael Flynn, and is now arguing that the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals erred when it ordered him to do so last month in a 2-1 ruling.
Sullivan, through his attorney Beth Wilkinson, filed a petition on Thursday for a so-called "en banc" review by the entire D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, arguing that the three-judge panel was improperly trying to force the district court "to grant a motion [to dismiss] it had not yet resolved in reliance on arguments never presented to the district court."
An option that General Flynn now has is to sue everyone who was part of the railroad job against him. He could seek to have all the money he paid to defend himself { he was billed for $6.7M by Covington & Burling LLP ( which Eric holder is a partner ) }. Because all those people and agencies have admitted to working in bad faith against him. Winning such a law suit would defeat Judge's Sullivan actions.
1/2 of the vote to dismiss came from a judge appointed by tRump after work in for his administration for 2 years. How this wench did not refuse herself is beyond me! Judge Sullivan would have a full panel of the judges on the bench rule!
What is Flynn going to sue for? His lying about being guilty, I mean lying a second time about being guilty, err I mean innocent of lying (which he did and everyone says he lied even fat ass Barr himself.)
Trust me, Flynn will avoid a courtroom like the plague!
As for your idiocy claiming "all those people and agencies have admitted to working in bad faith against him". Stop listening to Hannity dumas! Barr is the ONLY idiot who has claimed anything remotely close to this!
