Looks like Gen. Flynn was framed.

oldngray

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AP Exclusive: Justice Dept dropping Flynn’s criminal case

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department on Thursday said it is dropping the criminal case against President Donald Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, abandoning a prosecution that became a rallying cry for the president and his supporters in attacking the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation.

The move is a stunning reversal for one of the signature cases brought by special counsel Robert Mueller. It comes even though prosecutors for the past three years have maintained that Flynn lied to the FBI in a January 2017 interview about his conversations with the Russian ambassador.
They were quoting the prosecutors that lied to the court and committed many acts of misconduct including Brady violations?
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
The Flynn interview gave Flynn every opportunity to tell the truth. As the FBI’s partially redacted memo documenting Flynn’s interview reflects, the questions were careful. They were specific. The agents, as Strzok later recalled in a formal FBI interview of his own, planned to try to jog Flynn’s memory if he said he could not remember a detail by using the exact words they knew he had used in his conversation with Kislyak. And Flynn, as he admitted in open court—twice—did not tell the truth. That is not entrapment or a set-up, and it is very far indeed from outrageous government conduct. It’s conducting an interview—and a witness at the highest levels of government lying in it.

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Questions:

On the first Flynn interview was he represented by an attorney?

If not why would he willing go into the interview if he thought he would be brought up to prosecution if he was purposely hiding something?

It was a set up all the way....:gityasmiley::backingout:
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Questions:

On the first Flynn interview was he represented by an attorney?

If not why would he willing go into the interview if he thought he would be brought up to prosecution if he was purposely hiding something?

It was a set up all the way....:gityasmiley::backingout:
and the FBI interviewers said Flynn didn't lie. But the 302's were later altered to make it look like he did.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Didn’t they “persuade” him 2 lie? With threats 2 him and his son ?
They threatened to go after his son if he didn't plead guilty.

and Flynn's first lawyers were connected to Eric Holder and withheld evidence from him. Flynn needs to sue their asses off.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
The DOJ can file whatever it wants, the final decision still remains with Judge Emmet Sullivan. Flynn has sworn to his guilt under oath and penalty of perjury multiple times, and the court accepted his sworn guilt.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
The DOJ can file whatever it wants, the final decision still remains with Judge Emmet Sullivan. Flynn has sworn to his guilt under oath and penalty of perjury multiple times, and the court accepted his sworn guilt.
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oldngray

nowhere special
He plead guilty to something that isn't a crime.
With how the prosecution behaved its an automatic mistrial at least. DOJ saw they would lose even on appeal so stopped wasting everyone's time.

What will be interesting is to see what happens to the people in government who behaved so badly. Durham is about to hit a bunch of them with very big hammers.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
"It is exceptionally rare for the U.S. Department of Justice to move in court to dismiss a case in which a defendant has—ably assisted by first-class lawyers—entered into a plea agreement to spare himself prosecution on more serious felony charges. It is rarer still for the government to do so without acknowledging that it violated any law or that the defendant’s rights were somehow infringed. And it is still rarer yet for the government to take such a move without a single career prosecutor being willing to sign onto the brief seeking dismissal."

Lawfare
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
With how the prosecution behaved its an automatic mistrial at least. DOJ saw they would lose even on appeal so stopped wasting everyone's time.

What will be interesting is to see what happens to the people in government who behaved so badly. Durham is about to hit a bunch of them with very big hammers.
For the good of the nation and to restore some sense of believability to the FBI and DOJ, these miscreants need to be held accountable.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
"It is exceptionally rare for the U.S. Department of Justice to move in court to dismiss a case in which a defendant has—ably assisted by first-class lawyers—entered into a plea agreement to spare himself prosecution on more serious felony charges. It is rarer still for the government to do so without acknowledging that it violated any law or that the defendant’s rights were somehow infringed. And it is still rarer yet for the government to take such a move without a single career prosecutor being willing to sign onto the brief seeking dismissal."

Lawfare
Liberal nonsense twisting the facts.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
"It is exceptionally rare for the U.S. Department of Justice to move in court to dismiss a case in which a defendant has—ably assisted by first-class lawyers—entered into a plea agreement to spare himself prosecution on more serious felony charges. It is rarer still for the government to do so without acknowledging that it violated any law or that the defendant’s rights were somehow infringed. And it is still rarer yet for the government to take such a move without a single career prosecutor being willing to sign onto the brief seeking dismissal."

Lawfare
So? You're saying even if there's evidence the FBI coerced a confession to get Flynn removed from office that the conviction should still remain? Amazing how your side is fine with the Trump administration be attacked, strong armed, and railroaded but won't stand for prominent Democrats to be prosecuted even when there's clear and ample evidence of breaking the law. I think we're finally going to see some justice administered to people who were working to take down a duly elected president behind the scenes. Flynn's case is the tip of the iceberg. And expect it soon because there's a possibility there will be a Democrat administration in power next January. Going to be a long hot summer for Democrats though and when the public sees what they did, subverting the Constitution, it may be enough to reelect Trump. And before y'all go down that bogus prosecutor road John Durham is possibly the most respected Federal prosecutor in the country. Has prosecuted Republicans in the past, and chosen by Janet Reno and Eric Holder to prosecute big cases. He's like a dog after a bone and only cares about upholding the law. If all these folks did nothing wrong he'll absolve them. If they did he's the last person they want to be looking at in court. Expect a lot of plea bargaining.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
You're the one constantly quoting biased anti Trump authors. But hey if it makes you feel better.....
to take the view that the FBI had no reasonable investigative predicate for the Flynn case on Jan. 24, 2017, one has to believe that the following fact-pattern, considered in its entirety, provides no reasonably articulable basis for a counterintelligence concern:

  • A senior official with a TS/SCI (top secret/sensitive compartmented information) clearance working in the White House has ties to various Russian government entities.
  • He has traveled to Russia and taken large sums of money from a state-controlled Russian media outfit.
  • As the investigation of these matters was winding down, he had phone conversations with the Russian ambassador at a time when the United States had just imposed sanctions on Russia for interfering in the 2016 elections. In those conversations, he had asked that Russia to respond only in a measured fashion.
  • He subsequently lied to the vice president of the United States and other White House officials about the substance of those calls, causing the White House to issue inaccurate statements to the public.
  • The Russian government was aware of these lies, having participated in the phone calls, and the official was thus potentially subject to blackmail.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
to take the view that the FBI had no reasonable investigative predicate for the Flynn case on Jan. 24, 2017, one has to believe that the following fact-pattern, considered in its entirety, provides no reasonably articulable basis for a counterintelligence concern:

  • A senior official with a TS/SCI (top secret/sensitive compartmented information) clearance working in the White House has ties to various Russian government entities.
  • He has traveled to Russia and taken large sums of money from a state-controlled Russian media outfit.
  • As the investigation of these matters was winding down, he had phone conversations with the Russian ambassador at a time when the United States had just imposed sanctions on Russia for interfering in the 2016 elections. In those conversations, he had asked that Russia to respond only in a measured fashion.
  • He subsequently lied to the vice president of the United States and other White House officials about the substance of those calls, causing the White House to issue inaccurate statements to the public.
  • The Russian government was aware of these lies, having participated in the phone calls, and the official was thus potentially subject to blackmail.
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