Manager walked off grounds

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by local804, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    Suffolk building manager walked off the property once again by Loss prevention. Why dont they just let the guy leave or maybe have LP stand 20 feet behind him or something. I am far from sticking up for the manager, just against the UPS procedures they have for a person who sold his soul for the company.
  2. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    If he was caught stealing before, then why was he let back on the property? A thief is a thief.
  3. Just Lurking

    Just Lurking Member

    scratch, maybe he was another manager led off property. We have had 5 managers perp walk off property on my 20 years.

    Its really not the managers fault. If you hire and train managers with the same principles, why should anyone be surprised when the end result is the same.
  4. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    I dont think I mentioned anything about a person stealing. He was let go due to his leadership abilities diminshing. In reality, he probably spoke what was on his mind and was shown out the door for speaking.
  5. helenofcalifornia

    helenofcalifornia Well-Known Member

    You gotta play the game.
  6. Sammie

    Sammie Well-Known Member

    When they do their Dead Man Walking routine, it's so the "criminal" won't be saying goodbye to anyone on their way out. This has been discussed on a prior thread, but basically, it's another way to show
    that the company is in total control.

    This is a fairly new gig, never used to happen in years past.
    I remember when there was no LP department... :sad:
  7. ihadit

    ihadit Member

    He was a center manager from what we were told, rumor is its not over. A former dm may be next to go from there.
  8. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    Sorry, I just assumed theft was involved because you mentioned LP walked him out the door. We have had a problem with theft in my location.
  9. RockyRogue

    RockyRogue Agent of Change

    Leadership abilities???? HAHAHAHHAAH:lol::lol:. I know a CROWD of part-time supes that need to be escorted off property for incompetence and lack of leadership abilities! Its going to be a very, very sad state of affairs in 10 years when MORONS like I see at Denver are running this company at the STAFF level! -Rocky
  10. browned_out

    browned_out Member

    :confused:1 I was hired in "89" and LP has always been at our building, never seen any part of management walked out. Its always a part timer who was caught stealing, once in a while a driver maybe.
  11. 30andout

    30andout New Member

    How long have you been around, there has always been LP as long as I can remember.
  12. Sammie

    Sammie Well-Known Member

    Since before dirt...
  13. Harry Manback

    Harry Manback Robot Extraordinaire

    I'm anxious to see LPGuy's perspective on this.
  14. LPGuy

    LPGuy New Member

    I must admit that this post caught my attention. During my career, we have investigated managers for things such as theft, falsifying records, etc. I don't think that I've ever seen a manager walked off for performance issues. These are typically resolved by busting the manager back to a supervisor. There are occasions when a termination of a manager is going to happen. If there is some question about the person's acceptance of the bad news, or if the person's mental state is in question, the division manager/ HR will involve LP. Contrary to popular belief, LP does not make the decision as to whether or not the person is terminated. The exception would be someone who actually works in LP. In situations where an investigation reveals that an individual is stealing, and criminal charges are filed, this would be covered with the manager, or division manager. LP gives a recommendation but the final decision is made by the division manager. That being said, it would look bad for an employee to go to jail for stealing from UPS and the manager to decide that the person should keep their job. I would like to know more about the circumstances of this manager's termination.

  15. traveler

    traveler Where next? Venice

    Sammie, I was originally hired in 1965 (yes, I'm older than dirt) and the LP Department as an individual entity was rather new at that time. At least that was true in the New Jersey District.
  16. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    Yes , He was the center manager of the Stonybrook center in the Suffolk bldg. Everyone calls this building the county club because its so laid back and nothing like this ever happens lol. Supervisor from the PAS deptartment was let go last week also. He wasnt lucky enough to be walked off the property by LP though.(melville bldg)
  17. mikestrek

    mikestrek New Member

    WOW! I have seen both p/t & f/t hourly fired and just as many sup's and managers fired. I've been with the company now 23 years. I think a big reason Drivers & loaders go into supervission is because they have a hard time handling the the day to day physical grind of moving packages. Problem is these young sup's still have a lot of years left with the company and they know they can't go back to an hourly job. I notice these young sup's are telling drivers & loaders to do things physicly they couldn't do. Corporate is all over Sup's and Management so anything goes to keep there jobs. You could say all this pressure is forcing hourly and management to cheat and steal. NO EXCUSES??? As a driver I have learned to just set a pace, I'm always between 1 and 1 1/2 hours late each day. No pat on the back for me. If your hourly at UPS and you plan to retire from UPS I suggest you set a pace and load your car or deliver your packages by the book. If your a young sup, I've never done that. So good luck.

    I love my company (UPS) AND I love my union (Teamsters)
  18. Sammie

    Sammie Well-Known Member

    Traveler, I came on board in 1975. In fact, on my first day as I got 'the tour' I remember being flabbergasted to see one of those big telephone switchboards from 1910 in use for our incoming calls. No Joke.

    As a district office, we had a total of four centers and the offices consisted of maybe 30 people tops; customer service, tracing, personnel, payroll and I.E. And I don't recall a security or LP office or employee. But who knows what went on behind the curtain of Oz.
  19. helenofcalifornia

    helenofcalifornia Well-Known Member

    Who remembers getting your paycheck handed to you by your supervisor when it was just the check and everybody could see how much you made the last week? I think I still have some of those stubs from the 70's.
  20. upsgrunt

    upsgrunt Well-Known Member

    I remember that! They were just 2 pieces of documents that were folder over end to end. Anybody in the world could see all the information. We got ours in our mail slots and we still get them there.