More proof that the October surprise is inevitable....

[XFILED]

All already discussed before.... (I know my stating this gets old, but there is A LOT which has already been discussed).

The RLA covers the EMPLOYEES of Express. NOT the freight Express moves.

The FAA regulations apply to the freight of Express, from the time it is tendered for shipment, till it reaches its destination airport. Once the freight leaves the destination airport, the FAA is no longer concerned with the freight - from that point it merely falls under regular DOT regulations (which Ground is covered under, as well as Express).

If anything, this will STRENGTHEN the whole argument Express has for keeping the DGO employees under RLA (should there be another attempt to get them removed). With DGO only delivering overnight volume in the future (deferred volume will still be picked up - again, covered in prior threads), the argument that Express is an "Express Carrier" (as defined by the RLA), is only strengthened - and therefore the "need" to keep the Couriers under RLA will only gain traction with those in Congress who don't know what the hell is going on.

Fred and company have completely planned this out and analyzed all angles. The only question that remains to be answered is: "Can they (Express) pull it off without the wage employees realizing what is happening before it is too late for them?".

My bet is yes, they can pull it off. I'd hope that the wage employees realize before it is too late and do something, but I was proven wrong back in 2010 when it came to this and have no reason to believe otherwise now. Maybe, maybe the wage employees will come out of their collective stupor and start doing something about it - I'd be delighted if that were the case. However, I don't honestly think that will occur. Fred and company have proven themselves master strategist when it comes to playing the wage employees, they know their workforce quite well (benefits of decades of SFA surveys I'd imagine).

There are just too many KoolAid drinkers, topped out Couriers and part-timers who are passing though, to give Express any real worry at this point. With the "victory" in the change in voting rules for RLA elections, I'm sure Memphis is rather confident that they have this all in the bag.

I Concur.....Do you believe in miracles?? (not this time Al Michaels) Too many KoolAid Slurpers...

 

[seydlitz]

From what I was told over time, no FedEx supplies other than airbills, are to be used for Ground, in fact, the shipment is supposed to be denied if in FedEx Express packaging. This is the same as Express not supposed to be taking packages that are in USPS or UPS boxes or envelopes, I guess that's one of those "Oh well" rules, kind of like working on your break.

At Ground, I see easily dozens of Express packages in one sort, and at least a dozen of UPS, USPS, and DHL each. My favorite is when people line out the "Express" part of the box, as if we're going to stop and charge them more. And yeah, the boxes say explicitly that they are only to be used for Express. We recently (I work at a hub) added a build for a terminal which was devoted exclusively to returning damaged packages to one of our mainline customers. We're basically accounting that 1/4 of the packages going to the terminal there are packages we ****ed up and people refused to accept.

 

[59 Dano]

They're busy getting their costumes ready for the next ComicCon, Captain Kirk or Captain Picard? Oh the agony....choose the wrong captain and the Furries go nutso and try to beat you down with their giant heads. Holy crap....that could go as Locutus of Borg, then you get 2 for the price of 1! Or maybe they are playing Magic the Gathering....so many things that cubicle dwellers can do!

I know who Captain Kirk is. I'm glad you're the expert on that other stuff because it doesn't sound good.

 

[59 Dano]

It is funny when you think about it. From what I was told over time, no FedEx supplies other than airbills, are to be used for Ground, in fact, the shipment is supposed to be denied if in FedEx Express packaging. This is the same as Express not supposed to be taking packages that are in USPS or UPS boxes or envelopes, I guess that's one of those "Oh well" rules, kind of like working on your break.

Part of the offset for Ground's shipping rates is that the company doesn't supply any free boxes or envelopes. Your CSA should be able to give you the email address (something like [email protected]) of the people who will bill the account numbers of Ground shippers for using Express supplies.

 

[SmithBarney]

We have posters all over about supply abuse, and of course we don't see much ground on the road, but the biggest offenders are the CSA's that let customers use them, we usually have a cart load of Ground, and 1/2 of the packages can be in express packaging... the email address is nice, but unfortunately people want to report it anonymously.

 

[59 Dano]

We have posters all over about supply abuse, and of course we don't see much ground on the road, but the biggest offenders are the CSA's that let customers use them, we usually have a cart load of Ground, and 1/2 of the packages can be in express packaging... the email address is nice, but unfortunately people want to report it anonymously.

Why? They aren't going to get into trouble for upping the company's revenue.

 

[SmithBarney]

Yes but they cut into the revenue, those boxes cost money, and they should be selling boxes to the ground customers, or let them bring their own.

 

[DOWNTRODDEN IN TEXAS]

Part of the offset for Ground's shipping rates is that the company doesn't supply any free boxes or envelopes. Your CSA should be able to give you the email address (something like [email protected]) of the people who will bill the account numbers of Ground shippers for using Express supplies.

We have that email address prominently displayed in the station, I have even gone so far as to turn in major violators, and guess what? They still do it because no one really gives a flying flamingo.

 

[whenIgetthere]

Part of the offset for Ground's shipping rates is that the company doesn't supply any free boxes or envelopes. Your CSA should be able to give you the email address (something like [email protected]) of the people who will bill the account numbers of Ground shippers for using Express supplies.

A friend did do this, went thru channels to report supply abuse, he was called by Memphis and told to mind his own business!

 

[DorkHead]

You try to do the right thing and all you get is slapped down by the MAN. Familiar story heard at UPS also.

 

[hypo hanna]

Lucky he didn't get written up.

 

[MrFedEx]

You try to do the right thing and all you get is slapped down by the MAN. Familiar story heard at UPS also.

"Work as directed". They pay you to be a box monkey, not to think. Really good companies look to their frontline employees for suggestions on how to do the job better, or for less. FedEx doesn't do this, because they are not a good company. Only managers have ideas that count, which is a completely inane philosophy. "Human Capital" means utilizing the minds of your employees and encouraging them to fulfill their potential, which isn't the way FedEx defines the term. To them, it menas managing a group of employee numbers....and nothing else. Truly pathetic, but exactly what Express has become.

Thinking out of the box and being innovative will get you fired, not recognized. This is just another reason FedEx sucks.

 

[Rhoderunner]

Only managers have ideas that count, which is a completely inane philosophy.
Thinking out of the box and being innovative will get you fired, not recognized. This is just another reason FedEx sucks.

I don't believe the managers are even allowed to think anymore. All this crap is coming down from engineers and corporate offices and the managers are just pawns that are told to implement the plans. The good managers have seen the direction of this company and most have abandoned ship or wish they could IMO.

 

[TUT]

That last thing this could be, would be a surprise. Reading heer the only surprise will be if it's not as bad as it's being predicted. Everything I read above is big business these days but no worries Romney and Paul just promised us all much better days, hell they even sounded socialist in their remarks.

 

[59 Dano]

A friend did do this, went thru channels to report supply abuse, he was called by Memphis and told to mind his own business!

Everyone I've known who has done it was thanked and told that their submission would be researched. I've dealt with customers who were upset that they were charged for supply misuse. I've yet to hear of anyone being contacted by Memphis and told to butt out.

 

[MrFedEx]

Everyone I've known who has done it was thanked and told that their submission would be researched. I've dealt with customers who were upset that they were charged for supply misuse. I've yet to hear of anyone being contacted by Memphis and told to butt out.

BS. Another happy story from the files of The Twilight Zone in Memphis. If I contact Memphis, will you butt out?

 

[59 Dano]

BS. Another happy story from the files of The Twilight Zone in Memphis. If I contact Memphis, will you butt out?

WTF is your problem?

 

[whenIgetthere]

Everyone I've known who has done it was thanked and told that their submission would be researched. I've dealt with customers who were upset that they were charged for supply misuse. I've yet to hear of anyone being contacted by Memphis and told to butt out.

Now you've heard of one.

 

[59 Dano]

Now you've heard of one.

OK. 1 that I'm hearing about from a secondhand source and a few that I've been involved with who had completely different experiences. I guess your friend went about it the wrong way.

 

[Catatonic]

WTF is your problem?

A question that has been asked hundreds of times.