New Courier At Fedex Blues...

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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What most of you seem to forget is the bbsam's employees are not indentured servants. They knew what they were getting in to, the compensation package was spelled out for them and they were told what would be expected of them in return. Could the pay be better? Absolutely and perhaps this will be addressed once Ground becomes the dominant player in the field. My point is that you can only exploit those who have no other options.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Just an FYI....we do have a nice home, vehicles, etc. Ups no longer provides our Insurance because of the cost when you retire and my husband and I sacraficed a lot to work in this profession and get where we are today. But this was our choice! If so many of you are unhappy at FedEx, why arent you employed somewhere else? If I were that unhappy, I would not continue to do this job.We are both very appreciative of both companies for the life they have provided us. I could go all day on the differences between the companies but it's was still our choice to do what we do. I thinkwe would all be bitchin if we were standing in the soup line and didn't have our jobs.

I got frustrated with FedEx in the 90's due to lack of raises and quit. What I tried didn't work out so I came back about 17 months later. I realized I made a mistake, and the mgr who rehired me plus the next mgr at next station both told me it would take 7 to 8 years to top out. So I was willing to pay for my mistake and eventually get back on track. Turned out to not be true, and those same mgrs and mgrs in other stations I transferred to were all telling newhires 7 to 8 years. At the same time many of these mgrs were having alot of pressure on them to come up with unrealistic numbers. I got into the middle of a number of ridiculous, and very stressful situations. So why did I stay? For the pension. I was willing to put up with low pay and crooked mgrs as long as I got that pension. And then they terminated the plan. So why stay after that? The economy tanked. Where was I to go? And then I developed diabetes, high blood pressure, and a plugged up artery. And due to low pay and terminating the pension I'll get $13,600 at 55. $16k at 60. At least I got that but pretty sad for a lifetime of service. The people who run the company, and contractors like BBSam, deserve to be rewarded for organizing the company and providing jobs. But it's our productivity that brings in the revenue. We deserve fair compensation and a decent retirement for our efforts. I've never expected FedEx to make me wealthy. I've only wanted them to honor the promises they made, not lie to me, manipulate me, and at times abuse me, and then expect me to be perfectly content with whatever they decide is good enough for me. I suspect if your husband had worked at FedEx as a current mid-range employee, and you didn't enjoy all that working at UPS provided, your perspective would be different.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
What most of you seem to forget is the bbsam's employees are not indentured servants. They knew what they were getting in to, the compensation package was spelled out for them and they were told what would be expected of them in return. Could the pay be better? Absolutely and perhaps this will be addressed once Ground becomes the dominant player in the field. My point is that you can only exploit those who have no other options.

It will never be adequately addressed. Even when profits were much higher at Express they did everything possible to hold our pay down. If doing what they're doing now makes Ground the dominant player you can rest assured that they'll continue with the status quo. And other companies will follow their lead, telling employees their health and retirement is completely on them.
 

LTFedExer

Well-Known Member
I got frustrated with FedEx in the 90's due to lack of raises and quit. What I tried didn't work out so I came back about 17 months later. I realized I made a mistake, and the mgr who rehired me plus the next mgr at next station both told me it would take 7 to 8 years to top out.
After quitting due to 'lack of raises', what made you think the managers were telling you the truth? Your own experience there should have told you otherwise.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
After quitting due to 'lack of raises', what made you think the managers were telling you the truth? Your own experience there should have told you otherwise.

Because about a year after I quit FedEx came up with some serious raises for topped out employees. I just didn't know that they had no intention of sharing that better pay with mid-range employees. It's common knowledge now, and I'm hopeful they'll finally come up with something better next March. Based on their track record I'm not expecting a whole lot but we'll see.
 

armymom

Member
I got frustrated with FedEx in the 90's due to lack of raises and quit. What I tried didn't work out so I came back about 17 months later. I realized I made a mistake, and the mgr who rehired me plus the next mgr at next station both told me it would take 7 to 8 years to top out. So I was willing to pay for my mistake and eventually get back on track. Turned out to not be true, and those same mgrs and mgrs in other stations I transferred to were all telling newhires 7 to 8 years. At the same time many of these mgrs were having alot of pressure on them to come up with unrealistic numbers. I got into the middle of a number of ridiculous, and very stressful situations. So why did I stay? For the pension. I was willing to put up with low pay and crooked mgrs as long as I got that pension. And then they terminated the plan. So why stay after that? The economy tanked. Where was I to go? And then I developed diabetes, high blood pressure, and a plugged up artery. And due to low pay and terminating the pension I'll get $13,600 at 55. $16k at 60. At least I got that but pretty sad for a lifetime of service. The people who run the company, and contractors like BBSam, deserve to be rewarded for organizing the company and providing jobs. But it's our productivity that brings in the revenue. We deserve fair compensation and a decent retirement for our efforts. I've never expected FedEx to make me wealthy. I've only wanted them to honor the promises they made, not lie to me, manipulate me, and at times abuse me, and then expect me to be perfectly content with whatever they decide is good enough for me. I suspect if your husband had worked at FedEx as a current mid-range employee, and you didn't enjoy all that working at UPS provided, your perspective would be different.

Your honesty is appreciated! And you are correct things may have been different if we were both employed with FedEx but we would still have made good money together. FedEx has taken care of me in lots of ways. I still remember working a lot harder at worse jobs, for a lot less pay when I was a divorced mother of 2, with an Ex that did nothing to provide for his children. FedEx provided me with disability pay when I was diagnosed with breast cancer four years ago and had extensive surgeries and recovery time. Not to mention that my FedEx insurance covered almost all of my medical bills, which were thousands of dollars. I returned to work after 10 weeks, still not 100% ready but because of management, my co-workers and the best customers ever, I got through it. After 13 years I have still not topped out. Very close but not yet. No, it's probably not fair that it takes us so long. It should be changed but I'm content with the money I make. Fortunately for me, I have not been lied to, nor had promises made that were not kept. Our job is not an easy one, it's just the best I've ever had and I intend to make the best of it.
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
Your honesty is appreciated! And you are correct things may have been different if we were both employed with FedEx but we would still have made good money together. FedEx has taken care of me in lots of ways. I still remember working a lot harder at worse jobs, for a lot less pay when I was a divorced mother of 2, with an Ex that did nothing to provide for his children. FedEx provided me with disability pay when I was diagnosed with breast cancer four years ago and had extensive surgeries and recovery time. Not to mention that my FedEx insurance covered almost all of my medical bills, which were thousands of dollars. I returned to work after 10 weeks, still not 100% ready but because of management, my co-workers and the best customers ever, I got through it. After 13 years I have still not topped out. Very close but not yet. No, it's probably not fair that it takes us so long. It should be changed but I'm content with the money I make. Fortunately for me, I have not been lied to, nor had promises made that were not kept. Our job is not an easy one, it's just the best I've ever had and I intend to make the best of it.

You've had a pretty rough trip through the mill. But why would you want to come back to a strenuous job if you're not 100% ready after a major sickness? In a case like that, looking out for #1 is most important and I certainly hope you're doing well these days.

As far as your ex spouse is concerned, it's probably not too late to seek legal help to recover at least some of the money that's owed to you. Best of luck.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Your honesty is appreciated! And you are correct things may have been different if we were both employed with FedEx but we would still have made good money together. FedEx has taken care of me in lots of ways. I still remember working a lot harder at worse jobs, for a lot less pay when I was a divorced mother of 2, with an Ex that did nothing to provide for his children. FedEx provided me with disability pay when I was diagnosed with breast cancer four years ago and had extensive surgeries and recovery time. Not to mention that my FedEx insurance covered almost all of my medical bills, which were thousands of dollars. I returned to work after 10 weeks, still not 100% ready but because of management, my co-workers and the best customers ever, I got through it. After 13 years I have still not topped out. Very close but not yet. No, it's probably not fair that it takes us so long. It should be changed but I'm content with the money I make. Fortunately for me, I have not been lied to, nor had promises made that were not kept. Our job is not an easy one, it's just the best I've ever had and I intend to make the best of it.

I'm glad it's worked out for you and your health is better. Alot of what we're concerned about is the lack of benefits the guys over at Ground are getting. Getting a catastrophic illness while working for Ground would mean bankruptcy. Just paying for the various things that happen to kids would be difficult without insurance, especially at their lower pay. And paying them less seems to have inspired FedEx to hold our pay down too. If it were a matter of the company's survival then ok. It's not but rather about maintaining a high stock price. Making people struggle in order to enrich a relatively small group of people isn't my idea of a noble company. But maybe it will get better next March. We'll see.
 

armymom

Member
You've had a pretty rough trip through the mill. But why would you want to come back to a strenuous job if you're not 100% ready after a major sickness? In a case like that, looking out for #1 is most important and I certainly hope you're doing well these days.

As far as your ex spouse is concerned, it's probably not too late to seek legal help to recover at least some of the money that's owed to you. Best of luck.

I came back for the simple fact that I did not want to lose my route. I had a country route that was much less physically demanding than others and customers that I could count on to help if needed. It was not easy but I assure you I was not thinking rationally either. It all worked out and Life is Good now. Had a co-worker diagnosed with cancer right after I returned to work....she did chemo treatments on her lunch break....crazy, but you do what ya gotta do! As for the Ex....he signed over his parental rights and I have raised my kids without his help. I did not always have the luxury of Mr UPS by my side helping support me as some on here assume. But I certainly feel blessed to be where I am.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Your honesty is appreciated! And you are correct things may have been different if we were both employed with FedEx but we would still have made good money together. FedEx has taken care of me in lots of ways. I still remember working a lot harder at worse jobs, for a lot less pay when I was a divorced mother of 2, with an Ex that did nothing to provide for his children. FedEx provided me with disability pay when I was diagnosed with breast cancer four years ago and had extensive surgeries and recovery time. Not to mention that my FedEx insurance covered almost all of my medical bills, which were thousands of dollars. I returned to work after 10 weeks, still not 100% ready but because of management, my co-workers and the best customers ever, I got through it. After 13 years I have still not topped out. Very close but not yet. No, it's probably not fair that it takes us so long. It should be changed but I'm content with the money I make. Fortunately for me, I have not been lied to, nor had promises made that were not kept. Our job is not an easy one, it's just the best I've ever had and I intend to make the best of it.

FedEx sure is great isn't it? I'm not buying it (your story). When most employees at FedEx get sick our injured, Fred "takes care of them" through termination. Perhaps you are an exception to the rule, but Anthem and Sedgwick are in the claims denial business, and most people who deal with them find out the hard way that FedEx Doesn't Care.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
FedEx sure is great isn't it? I'm not buying it (your story). When most employees at FedEx get sick our injured, Fred "takes care of them" through termination. Perhaps you are an exception to the rule, but Anthem and Sedgwick are in the claims denial business, and most people who deal with them find out the hard way that FedEx Doesn't Care.

You know, most times I like what you post and laugh at your Gulliverean quest against the company, but sometimes you can be a real jerk.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
You know, most times I like what you post and laugh at your Gulliverean quest against the company, but sometimes you can be a real jerk.

I can, can't I? But then again, you aren't familiar with the folks that the corporate office sends to the BC to defend the company. I am. Here's why I'm not buying it. First, nobody "almost" tops out after 13 years at FedEx...try 20 (or more). Second, the story is almost too good to be true, and since I'm intimately familiar with the way that FedEx treats sick employees, her story sounds quite atypical. Hey, if it's true.....that's great. But don't be a rube.

I fully expected this when I posted, so your response is exactly what the corporation wants to hear. That they "care". Be assured...they don't.
 

armymom

Member
FedEx sure is great isn't it? I'm not buying it (your story). When most employees at FedEx get sick our injured, Fred "takes care of them" through termination. Perhaps you are an exception to the rule, but Anthem and Sedgwick are in the claims denial business, and most people who deal with them find out the hard way that FedEx Doesn't Care.

Are you by chance the guy that works beside me? I've never heard anyone whine so much! Just because you are unhappy in your job doesn't mean that all of us are. I don't care if you buy my story. It's all true.....I've lived it and would certainly never claim to have had Cancer if not true....and I can forward you the medical claims and payments to prove it! I truly don't understand why you are still with the company....Find something else that makes you happy! There's someone out there that would love to be your replacement!
 

armymom

Member
I can, can't I? But then again, you aren't familiar with the folks that the corporate office sends to the BC to defend the company. I am. Here's why I'm not buying it. First, nobody "almost" tops out after 13 years at FedEx...try 20 (or more). Second, the story is almost too good to be true, and since I'm intimately familiar with the way that FedEx treats sick employees, her story sounds quite atypical. Hey, if it's true.....that's great. But don't be a rube.

I fully expected this when I posted, so your response is exactly what the corporation wants to hear. That they "care". Be assured...they don't.

You truly amaze me. Now call me a liar why don't you. What reason would I have to gain on here by making this up? I'm not here to defend the company.....I'm just merely stating some facts
and things that have happened to me. And by the way I was the first of 3 that have had Cancer at our station. All of us are still with FedEx. Fred didn't fire any of us. Maybe you should talk to all
three of us!
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Are you by chance the guy that works beside me? I've never heard anyone whine so much! Just because you are unhappy in your job doesn't mean that all of us are. I don't care if you buy my story. It's all true.....I've lived it and would certainly never claim to have had Cancer if not true....and I can forward you the medical claims and payments to prove it! I truly don't understand why you are still with the company....Find something else that makes you happy! There's someone out there that would love to be your replacement!

I make a post about how universally negative the FedEx "experience" has become across all divisions, and "Boom!", here you are with something straight out of "I Am FedEx". Too coincidental for me. You also sound very much like a former poster who was eventually chased off here for making false statements. FedEx4Life just happened to post too.

Please tell me how you've managed to almost top-out after only 13 years? Your current wage and progression should be sufficient. Location and station pay level would also be helpful. You must work at a unique station.
 

LTFedExer

Well-Known Member
FedEx sure is great isn't it? I'm not buying it (your story). When most employees at FedEx get sick our injured, Fred "takes care of them" through termination. Perhaps you are an exception to the rule, but Anthem and Sedgwick are in the claims denial business, and most people who deal with them find out the hard way that FedEx Doesn't Care.
Thank goodness we have Cigna here :/
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Cigna sux, too!! My wife has to travel 3 hours to see a specialist that accepts Cigna for her condition. There are many of these speciailists within an hour of here, but none accept Cigna.

I know 6 people in my station who are currently being denied treatment and/or payment by Anthem and/or Sedgwick. Their conditions range from hernias to cardiovascular problems. All legitimate, and all disputed by the above providers. I can ask around and see if there are more. I'm willing to bet there are.

Here's a helpful hint. Never let your provider or FedEx know that you participate in sports or work-out etc. If and when you get injured, FedEx will attempt to blame the problem on your outside activities. Count on it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Cigna sux, too!! My wife has to travel 3 hours to see a specialist that accepts Cigna for her condition. There are many of these speciailists within an hour of here, but none accept Cigna.

My doctor wanted to do a stress test to determine how well my angioplasty and stent were doing. I guess Anthem decided since I was still alive that was good enough. Funny thing is that the new benefits book puts it on the employee to get approval first if you are under Anthem. The stress test was in March, the benefits book arrived about 2 weeks ago. Anthem denied the claim and the hospital says I owe them $7200. I may be filing bankruptcy as I got another notice today saying it goes to collections in 2 weeks.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
My doctor wanted to do a stress test to determine how well my angioplasty and stent were doing. I guess Anthem decided since I was still alive that was good enough. Funny thing is that the new benefits book puts it on the employee to get approval first if you are under Anthem. The stress test was in March, the benefits book arrived about 2 weeks ago. Anthem denied the claim and the hospital says I owe them $7200. I may be filing bankruptcy as I got another notice today saying it goes to collections in 2 weeks.

Remember. "FedEx Cares".
 
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