helenofcalifornia
Well-Known Member
Judging by how many posts were written in such a short time, I guess we all know what BBAG, Hefferman and atatbl did on Thanksgiving day.
Integrity--pass it on.
Man, I'm assuming this thread is going to make it's way to page 2 by tomorrow. It finally died (and I missed it damnit!) I had a great time reading into BBAG'S sense of right and wrong. I couldn't have disagreed with him more. His case unfortunately holds weight in a court of law though, however it would be the most unpopular decision in history. Morally, not telling your boss is probably (in my mind anyway) a no win situation. I mean what do you say to him when you do lose your license in court? I didn't feel the need to tell you because I thought it wasn't pertinent at the time cause I was innocent until proven guilty. Never mind the fact that you think it's perfectly alright to drink and drive in the first place and place people in danger while doing it. Kind of an odd sense of priorities? Atatbl, you are ruthless on the guy. I'm not saying you're wrong in anyway, but maybe it could have been ended sooner maybe. IMHO.
Actually - reading it, soberups is incorrect, and I was correct. Re-read what soberups posted, from the Agreement.
You are not obligated to advise UPS upon citation. You are obligated to inform UPS upon the date of suspension.
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Atatbl, you are ruthless on the guy. I'm not saying you're wrong in anyway, but maybe it could have been ended sooner maybe. IMHO.
I can only speak for the law here in Oregon. Here, if you are cited for DUI your license is immediately confiscated by the police and suspended. You are then issued a seperate, temporary license that is only valid until you enter a plea. You are required to notify management prior to the start of your next shift that you have been cited for DUI. Failure to do so will result in termination of employment with UPS.
....leave shall be granted for such time as the employee�s operating
privilege or license had been suspended or revoked but not for a period
longer than one (1) year, provided the driver whose operating privilege or
license has been suspended or revoked notifies the employee�s immediate
supervisor before the employee�s next report to work of such suspension or
revocation. .
I would enjoy someone showing me facts that this is law in every state and in ALL 100 % CASES. Then I can firmly say that without being able to drive legally, you should definitly inform UPS or whatever company you are operating a vehicle of the situation.
How about that? Show me facts.
I would enjoy someone showing me facts that this is law in every state and in ALL 100 % CASES. Then I can firmly say that without being able to drive legally, you should definitly inform UPS or whatever company you are operating a vehicle of the situation.
How about that? Show me facts.
Here's a better idea: don't drink and drive.
And another one. If you were a driver (you are probably not) then drink and drive and follow DBAG's advice. That way, someone deserving of that position will get to fill it in after you.
P.S. Try and make sure you only kill yourself when you wreck while drinking and driving. Also, try not to bleed too much or severe limbs, that way the tax payers will pay less to remove your worthless being from the car.
Wow......That was pretty bad, even by your standards.
In my state you do not lose your license when you get arrested for DUI. You retain your license until you are convicted in court. A lot of first offense DUI arrests get reduced to reckless driving, (depends on BAC), so it may not always 100% of the time be prudent to tell management the day after you are arrested for DUI.
I am so glad I went to bed a missed out on this.
Pics or werk.....
No, the pissing match between you and Lightening Rod.
I happen to be on the computer 24 hours a day - I work on the computer & am lucky enough to have BC up in a separate window.
You cannot beat a BAC. You can only find fault in the process.