If I was at that PCM the DOT would find out pretty quick, about the time it takes me to make a phone call.They are going to get fired if the dot finds out.
If I was at that PCM the DOT would find out pretty quick, about the time it takes me to make a phone call.They are going to get fired if the dot finds out.
We had the PCM Thursday, that we all have to take our lunch on the road. All 30 minutes, consecutively. Oh My, we will now find out who has been skipping through their lunch.
I take mine throughout the day, 10 minutes at a time. I don't like that I can no longer do that, as it will put me in neighborhoods at dark time in winter I do not want to deliver in dark. I really don't know how I will sit for 30 minutes, and not need a nap. I guess I will take one of those books with me, that have been pining up that I want to read.
The problem for me is, I have done it this way since they started slamming us every day for the last 5 or 6 yrs. There is no way I can get all my business off taking 30 minutes mid day.
But its a law, not a choice, and I think if people just do it, the company will be forced to put some of those cut routes in every day, to adhere to the new law or suffer missed packages. We have to follow the rule, they have to fix it so we can.
Many of the drivers have been forced to take their lunches and breaks at the end of the day. Mostly because it was easier to do that, than fight management and dispatch.
At 1 oclock every day, or at least near that time, we all need to call in and say, Im going on lunch, til 1:30, I start my pick ups at 3:30, until 5. I have 40 businesses left, I can only do thirty, in 2 hrs, the rest will be missed. Or whatever your route requirements are. We need to let them know early. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel, the way I see it.....
You mean to tell me we could of split up our lunch like that. Now you tell me.
We could always split it, no more.
If I was at that PCM the DOT would find out pretty quick, about the time it takes me to make a phone call.
Why...if we, as package, do not have to have a CDL, operate within the 150 air mile radius of our base of operations, are not required to keep a DOT log book, do these rules apply to package? They are for feeders and we all know that. Upper management says that we are all(package and feeder) governed by DOT rules.....when they are convenient. If we are all going to be governed by DOT then all rules apply not just some here(for package) and some there(for feeders)
Anyone who doesn't call, and this can be done anonymously and protected under the whistle blowers protection act, is only propagating the very abuse that they complain so much about.
How would you feel about a driver who is directed to stay home and receive his daily guarantee while on "light duty"?
The ride along should go like this:
Sup: You bathroom stops count as part of your break time.
Toon: Really? Wow. Ok I'll make a mental note to file a grievance as soon as we get back to the building.
I guess if you wanted to you could code it off as sick on area, its there. But if Im finishing the day, and it happens to me, its a cost of doing business.What about if you have the hershey squirts and you are the pot for 20-30 minutes....should you put the time down for a break or lunch then??
What about if you have the hershey squirts and you are the pot for 20-30 minutes....should you put the time down for a break or lunch then??
The consensus here is that the rest period only applies to your first 8 hours on duty, not the second 8 as that would put you at 16 and you should shut down by then & the exemption only applies once per week. I guess an interpretation will follow at some point.
How would you feel about a driver who is directed to stay home and receive his daily guarantee while on "light duty"?
It applies to any 8 hour stretch. 8+8 is 16, never happens except in cases of inclement weather exceptions. Now 4+1+9 is 14 an that is the max punch to punch allowed and that does happen more than some will admit.
If a driver works his first 4 hrs, takes his 1 hour lunch, and works another 8-9 hours he better take another 30 minute break by the start of that 8th hour or it is a violation, guaranteed. If he takes less than an hour lunch his 8th will begin even sooner.
It's simple to remember. If a driver works ANY 7.59 hours without a break at 8.0 hours he better begin that 30 min break.
If anything, I would think you would take the second break (as the law is written) while you wait for interpretation.Well, we seem to think it's unclear and that it will be addressed later in an interpretation. The scenario in C-2 Questions & Answers – HOS Final Rule (December 2011) for CMV Drivers - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration seems like it would have also included a situation where you worked up to 14 hours & even 16 hours, and an additional break isn't addressed in C-5 either. I think the intention is just one break in 8 hours. Of course, the FDT is red flashing you not to complete a break just prior to 7.5 hours so if I.E. put in to do that at any 8 hour driving period I'm more than happy to comply. Until then I'll wait for the interpretation.
Well, we seem to think it's unclear and that it will be addressed later in an interpretation. The scenario in C-2 Questions & Answers – HOS Final Rule (December 2011) for CMV Drivers - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration seems like it would have also included a situation where you worked up to 14 hours & even 16 hours, and an additional break isn't addressed in C-5 either. I think the intention is just one break in 8 hours. Of course, the FDT is red flashing you not to complete a break just prior to 7.5 hours so if I.E. put in to do that at any 8 hour driving period I'm more than happy to comply. Until then I'll wait for the interpretation.
We were also told for a day such as the day after the fourth, and any other day which you may sign a sheet for hours only, that if you work 6 hrs, you must take a 30.