So I found this site while researching UPS jobs. It just so happens I had my 2nd interview and passed the road test yesterday for a full time temp. casual driver. I was debating on taking the job and doing what I could as an outside hire to bide my time for full time driver and pick up a second job. This would require me to quit my okay paying day job for a gamble though because they said right away the time frame is 8-13 years at this facility in Upstate New York I have a friend who knows the inside scoop as he is the shop steward and says that I won't get any hours doing that because they are just hiring for peak and dangling a carrot, and already have 12 cover drivers. My other option is to stay at my current job full time, and work as a part time inside package handler from 5-9 so I'm inside and maybe be a cover driver on my day off from the full time job. This will put me higher on the list for seniority, and give me better benefits than my current job. They are burning through people as package handlers so I could definitely get my days in to cover pension and benefits. Is there anything I'm missing in the picture or a better option so I don't go broke over the next 8 years? Right now it seems if I want to make it to full time driver, easiest and fastest way will be part time package handler and keep my day job until I win a bid for full time and just bust my butt for the next few years. Sorry for the long post, especially for a first one but wanted to explain my situation. I'm in the upstate NY area and would love to be a full time driver (like everybody else!) Thanks for all the help in advance!