New Hours Initiatives

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I heard from second hand information that the business reattempt plan wasn't to provide better service per se but to bust courier "falsifying" for a phantom reattempt. Second hand said they were hoping they could "thin out" excess. Food for thought.:holycowsmile:

I'm pretty much identifying myself here, but don't care at this point. I was supposed to take a rt that had a new shipper shipping 450 boxes a day. Before I arrived mgr called me and said plans have changed. Supposed to have had lost that account the day after it started. I suspect the mgr talked to my mgr and learned I wanted hours so told me that so as to both get me interested in taking transfer and to see if I really wanted to work. But a topped out courier got killed on the job, pulled out in front of tractor trailer a couple of weeks ago. So I was asked to do his route instead. It's a busy route, and mgr told me that courier grossed $80k on it last year. He supposedly got done with heavy extended rt early, drove back to station area to do pickup rt and was DG specialist staying late. And volunteered Saturdays to boot. This has been confirmed by other couriers, he was wanting alot of hours. BUT,.....and I'm really not wanting to say anything bad about him because apparently this was a hell of a good guy and courier, and literally everyone on rt really loved him, but it looks to me that in order to get his break in, make it back to do pickup rt etc he was most likely releasing pkgs while delivering others, then dropping them off on his break. I've done alot of rts over the years, posted good numbers, and this rt isn't adding up. Mgr asked me about being a DG specialist but I'm not interested. And I think if I do the rt right I won't be able to get back in time to do pickups and most likely mgr won't be happy. All things considered mgr seems like a pretty good guy, but he does seem like he's under pressure. Heard senior mgr pretty tough lady.
 

DontThrowPackages

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty much identifying myself here, but don't care at this point. I was supposed to take a rt that had a new shipper shipping 450 boxes a day. Before I arrived mgr called me and said plans have changed. Supposed to have had lost that account the day after it started. I suspect the mgr talked to my mgr and learned I wanted hours so told me that so as to both get me interested in taking transfer and to see if I really wanted to work. But a topped out courier got killed on the job, pulled out in front of tractor trailer a couple of weeks ago. So I was asked to do his route instead. It's a busy route, and mgr told me that courier grossed $80k on it last year. He supposedly got done with heavy extended rt early, drove back to station area to do pickup rt and was DG specialist staying late. And volunteered Saturdays to boot. This has been confirmed by other couriers, he was wanting alot of hours. BUT,.....and I'm really not wanting to say anything bad about him because apparently this was a hell of a good guy and courier, and literally everyone on rt really loved him, but it looks to me that in order to get his break in, make it back to do pickup rt etc he was most likely releasing pkgs while delivering others, then dropping them off on his break. I've done alot of rts over the years, posted good numbers, and this rt isn't adding up. Mgr asked me about being a DG specialist but I'm not interested. And I think if I do the rt right I won't be able to get back in time to do pickups and most likely mgr won't be happy. All things considered mgr seems like a pretty good guy, but he does seem like he's under pressure. Heard senior mgr pretty tough lady.
I don't have to tell you to not put yourself out there where you can be fired for falsifying. What good are all those hours if someone calls saying their package shows delivered but you still have it on board and your new manager would like to see your ID. And good call on turning down the DG detail. All of our employees who have past away, had tumors or any other serious health issues all worked in a DG capacity. I would see 2 and 3 bar just sitting next to the feet of those guys and I couldn't help thing what the heck? That stuff should be placed on the far side of the area. We don't know if the customer packed every one of those package correctly. :nuke::nuke::nuke:
 

Guapo

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty much identifying myself here, but don't care at this point. I was supposed to take a rt that had a new shipper shipping 450 boxes a day. Before I arrived mgr called me and said plans have changed. Supposed to have had lost that account the day after it started. I suspect the mgr talked to my mgr and learned I wanted hours so told me that so as to both get me interested in taking transfer and to see if I really wanted to work. But a topped out courier got killed on the job, pulled out in front of tractor trailer a couple of weeks ago. So I was asked to do his route instead. It's a busy route, and mgr told me that courier grossed $80k on it last year. He supposedly got done with heavy extended rt early, drove back to station area to do pickup rt and was DG specialist staying late. And volunteered Saturdays to boot. This has been confirmed by other couriers, he was wanting alot of hours. BUT,.....and I'm really not wanting to say anything bad about him because apparently this was a hell of a good guy and courier, and literally everyone on rt really loved him, but it looks to me that in order to get his break in, make it back to do pickup rt etc he was most likely releasing pkgs while delivering others, then dropping them off on his break. I've done alot of rts over the years, posted good numbers, and this rt isn't adding up. Mgr asked me about being a DG specialist but I'm not interested. And I think if I do the rt right I won't be able to get back in time to do pickups and most likely mgr won't be happy. All things considered mgr seems like a pretty good guy, but he does seem like he's under pressure. Heard senior mgr pretty tough lady.

I know way too many couriers doing this (release pkgs on break,drive on break, pups on break,set up route on break) I can't figure out why. You're bustin' your tail for 36000 a year and giving about 4000 up by working for free 40 or so minutes everyday for what? a pat on the back...at least until you screw up:dissapointed:
 

Bankrupt

Well-Known Member
I know way too many couriers doing this (release pkgs on break,drive on break, pups on break,set up route on break) I can't figure out why. You're bustin' your tail for 36000 a year and giving about 4000 up by working for free 40 or so minutes everyday for what? a pat on the back...at least until you screw up:dissapointed:
Happens all the time at my sta 2, makes no sense. I've no for a fact that 2 different swings have done it on my route. I pulled their iib23 and it was so obvious, one took a 30 on way to area it's almost an hr from sta. The other idiot somehow delivered 2 stops over 20 min away from each other 1 min apart after lunch. This kind of stuff is what fedex wishes each of us would do and why we will never get what we deserve here
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
I'm pretty much identifying myself here, but don't care at this point. I was supposed to take a rt that had a new shipper shipping 450 boxes a day. Before I arrived mgr called me and said plans have changed. Supposed to have had lost that account the day after it started. I suspect the mgr talked to my mgr and learned I wanted hours so told me that so as to both get me interested in taking transfer and to see if I really wanted to work. But a topped out courier got killed on the job, pulled out in front of tractor trailer a couple of weeks ago. So I was asked to do his route instead. It's a busy route, and mgr told me that courier grossed $80k on it last year. He supposedly got done with heavy extended rt early, drove back to station area to do pickup rt and was DG specialist staying late. And volunteered Saturdays to boot. This has been confirmed by other couriers, he was wanting alot of hours. BUT,.....and I'm really not wanting to say anything bad about him because apparently this was a hell of a good guy and courier, and literally everyone on rt really loved him, but it looks to me that in order to get his break in, make it back to do pickup rt etc he was most likely releasing pkgs while delivering others, then dropping them off on his break. I've done alot of rts over the years, posted good numbers, and this rt isn't adding up. Mgr asked me about being a DG specialist but I'm not interested. And I think if I do the rt right I won't be able to get back in time to do pickups and most likely mgr won't be happy. All things considered mgr seems like a pretty good guy, but he does seem like he's under pressure. Heard senior mgr pretty tough lady.

Please elaborate on the courier who was killed on-the-job. I haven't heard anything about this, and I sure hope he didn't give his life trying to make service or otherwise cut corners on safety. There is nothing about this job or company that should force you to not be safe.
 

DontThrowPackages

Well-Known Member
Please elaborate on the courier who was killed on-the-job. I haven't heard anything about this, and I sure hope he didn't give his life trying to make service or otherwise cut corners on safety. There is nothing about this job or company that should force you to not be safe.
I tried looking for the story and found too many. I didn't know so many of us were dying on the road. What are they doing to us?
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
I tried looking for the story and found too many. I didn't know so many of us were dying on the road. What are they doing to us?

I have written several letters to "60 Minutes" and other investigative-type programs, trying to get them to do a story on the way FedEx forces couriers to be unsafe or lose their jobs. They preach "safety" all the time, and then they put couriers in the position of losing their jobs if they don't make SPH, goal, or have too much gap time. This company has become an evil monster. Mr.Smith needs to examine his conscience, if he still has one.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Please elaborate on the courier who was killed on-the-job. I haven't heard anything about this, and I sure hope he didn't give his life trying to make service or otherwise cut corners on safety. There is nothing about this job or company that should force you to not be safe.

I was at the intersection where he was struck and noticed the line of sight is a bit obscured. He was broadsided and pushed 250 ft and stopped in a cemetery after tearing up it's fence. Heard his truck was found in reverse, so possibly he tried to get out of way. His funeral was Monday of last week, company covered station with couriers from other stations so that station could attend.
 

Bankrupt

Well-Known Member
I have written several letters to "60 Minutes" and other investigative-type programs, trying to get them to do a story on the way FedEx forces couriers to be unsafe or lose their jobs. They preach "safety" all the time, and then they put couriers in the position of losing their jobs if they don't make SPH, goal, or have too much gap time. This company has become an evil monster. Mr.Smith needs to examine his conscience, if he still has one.
Mr smith is the devil or at the least made a deal w him rot in hell
 

Bankrupt

Well-Known Member
I was at the intersection where he was struck and noticed the line of sight is a bit obscured. He was broadsided and pushed 250 ft and stopped in a cemetery after tearing up it's fence. Heard his truck was found in reverse, so possibly he tried to get out of way. His funeral was Monday of last week, company covered station with couriers from other stations so that station could attend.
Tragic, no one should lose their life for this company I will pray for his family and friends
 

Route 66

Slapped Upside-da-Head Member
My sentiments exactly.
mine too...unfortunately it happens more often than FedEx cares to let on.

MFE, did ya contact Dateline? Oh how I'd love to see Chris Hansen and his camera crew show up in MEM.. "Mr. Thornton please have a seat right there, I have a few questions I'd like to ask you..Is this a photograph of your genitals?.....oops, wrong transcript"
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
mine too...unfortunately it happens more often than FedEx cares to let on.

MFE, did ya contact Dateline? Oh how I'd love to see Chris Hansen and his camera crew show up in MEM.. "Mr. Thornton please have a seat right there, I have a few questions I'd like to ask you..Is this a photograph of your genitals?.....oops, wrong transcript"

First off, we all know MT3 has no genitals. He had them removed to become a bigger jerk. No, I haven't tried "Dateline" yet, but I will. I'm going to post something further when I can compile some numbers, but suffice it to say that it isn't worth your life to get a cheap card, some crap flowers, and your route retired on a poster in the station. I don't know the particulars of the accident beyond what vantexan is saying (is it Texas, van?) because I haven't been able to locate the story, but pulling-out in front of a semi sounds like something a courier would do when they were in a rush, trying to do 15 things at once instead of concentrating on being safe.

Please...just be safe. Screw Fred, his service levels, and this God-forsaken company. It really bothers me when someone gets killed or injured doing this job, which has become quite dangerous given the push for productivity.
 

unclefred

Member
This is part of the grand scheme. In the fall Standard overnite(SO) will be due at 2000(Fact) they are rolling out DRA(Fact) they are massively cutting routes(fact) they are not giving us our raises til Oct 1st which happens to be the day that you enroll in ObamaCare(fact) they are combining small stations into superstations with limited space(fact) they are downsizing the fleet(fact) they are doing same day same city delivery in major cities(fact) they are eliminating 3 day and puching towards ground(fact) what does all these facts lead too? A manager who tells me inside information says we will be lucky to have the same job come fall, whatever that means he will not elaborate because only a few people are privy to the information and it will come back to him. So what do I plan to do, get my resume out, care about myself and play the same game they are playing with us. That means calling in sick on inconvenient days for the station, means not sweating over getting to stops on time and just existing. They are not morons we are the morons that have allowed this to happen by supporting a company who hates its employees and customers!!!!!
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
This is part of the grand scheme. In the fall Standard overnite(SO) will be due at 2000(Fact) they are rolling out DRA(Fact) they are massively cutting routes(fact) they are not giving us our raises til Oct 1st which happens to be the day that you enroll in ObamaCare(fact) they are combining small stations into superstations with limited space(fact) they are downsizing the fleet(fact) they are doing same day same city delivery in major cities(fact) they are eliminating 3 day and puching towards ground(fact) what does all these facts lead too? A manager who tells me inside information says we will be lucky to have the same job come fall, whatever that means he will not elaborate because only a few people are privy to the information and it will come back to him. So what do I plan to do, get my resume out, care about myself and play the same game they are playing with us. That means calling in sick on inconvenient days for the station, means not sweating over getting to stops on time and just existing. They are not morons we are the morons that have allowed this to happen by supporting a company who hates its employees and customers!!!!!

Sounds like you're ready to get off the plantation. That would be a smart move.
 

DontThrowPackages

Well-Known Member
This is part of the grand scheme. In the fall Standard overnite(SO) will be due at 2000(Fact) they are rolling out DRA(Fact) they are massively cutting routes(fact) they are not giving us our raises til Oct 1st which happens to be the day that you enroll in ObamaCare(fact) they are combining small stations into superstations with limited space(fact) they are downsizing the fleet(fact) they are doing same day same city delivery in major cities(fact) they are eliminating 3 day and puching towards ground(fact) what does all these facts lead too? A manager who tells me inside information says we will be lucky to have the same job come fall, whatever that means he will not elaborate because only a few people are privy to the information and it will come back to him. So what do I plan to do, get my resume out, care about myself and play the same game they are playing with us. That means calling in sick on inconvenient days for the station, means not sweating over getting to stops on time and just existing. They are not morons we are the morons that have allowed this to happen by supporting a company who hates its employees and customers!!!!!

Wasn't aware of the new SO commit time. It makes sense in that it will take DRA off the hook for doing what it can't. But I am aware of the erosion of Express. It won't be here by 2015. Just PT FO drivers that deliver until 1030. You'd be wise to get really cheap and payoff everything you're in debt for. Come this time next year, If you're still working here, you'll also be working another job if you imagine yourself working a fulltime gig. Hopefully the other PT job will eventually turn into full time so you can leave. Good Luck.
 
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