Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Yes we have to punch in on the diad. It's your time card now.
New Member with two related questions.
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StongUPSThroughCompliance
20 Year Package Car Driver
688, this is probably the difference between centers. In my center it is expected to grab your board and punch in, then review your previous days performance and then sign that paper and any other paperwork(missed, late, closed after 5, etc), then check a box for other paperwork, sign for high values, sign for call tags, sign for driver followups, etc., then get helper board if peak. Yes we kill trees at our center with the paperwork. Then walk to different part of building to be at PCM by start time. I feel this should all be paid time. Btw, if I walk in at 839 for 840 start by the time I do this I will miss the PCM.
cachsux
Wah
Gotcha.
We have a central device that we enter our "punch in"time, basically it shows we were there at or before our start time. We then go back at our start time and enter our ID number and the go on "work".
Nothing gets done off the clock.
Cementups
Box Monkey
If you don't get your DIAD before your start time then how do you know if you're late or not? And if you wait to punch in till your start time then you run the run the risk of punching in late and then you aren't guaranteed your 8 hours pay.
Before start time I grab, my DIAD, punch in, hit "get EDD" and stuff it in my back pocket. Game over till PCM starts.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Lol I'm a slow reader and I wouldn't glance at that stuff until on the clock. I would then take a good 5-10 minutes to look over it all and proceed to RTS every freaking sheet of paper put in front of me.
cachsux
Wah
I have addressed that you guys need your Diad to punch in.
Johney
Well-Known Member
Yes this is how package drivers clock in so if your start time is 9:40 and you punch in at 9:40:01 you are late and the report will show an L by your name. See how long that last before you get discipline for being late.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Wrong it would have to be 9:41 before you were late. Doesn't count seconds.
Johney
Well-Known Member
You're right my bad.
Cementups
Box Monkey
Like BS said, you're technically not late until 9:41:00 if your start time is 9:40.
But I always say, if you're not early, you're late.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I only know its 9:41 because I often clock in RIGHT on time. It's amazing really. Living 2 miles away get me in trouble more than it helps.
oldngray
nowhere special
I thought the DIAD rounded time off by closest minute. Up to :30 you are on time and :31 after you would show up as late. The pickup time scans are counted that way at least (or used to be).
cachsux
Wah
I didn't say don't punch in till 9:40:01. I said everything else can wait till 9:40:01.
Punch in on your board when you like. Then have some coffee, chat with other drivers ,etc. At 9:40 feel free to start work or "gathering".
StongUPSThroughCompliance
20 Year Package Car Driver
Thanks for the input. So tomorrow I will gather the names of all the center managers, on cars, preload sups, and the center manager(he is stationed in our hub) that I see out in the hub around off-the-clock drivers. I'm going to file a concern online on the UPS helpline website and name all management that is looking the other way. I will mention the $32 million dollar Tyson lawsuit and FLSA. Then I will wait and see if this gets addressed in any of the 3 centers in my building. As for a grievance, this will be my second course of action. I don't want the money and I would have to call out other drivers to do this. This would cause discourse among drivers, something I already think UPS uses to it's advantage. (Such as telling one driver he has more work because I'm on the 9.5 list). I just want the unpaid work to stop. I will repost and let you know how this turns out. Maybe if it is addressed then this can be used by more drivers as an alternative to other actions. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Cementups
Box Monkey
We have a few drivers who live within 5 miles of the HUB and they are 10-30 minutes LATE every day. Nothing ever said. I was late one day by 5 minutes and was pulled into the office about it. I told them to piss off.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I obviously don't know your center or situation. However I would personally think filing a grievance would go over much better than mentioning lawsuits.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Am I the only one who smells BS regarding the OP and this thread? A 20 year driver doesn't know how to file a grievance? Hmmmmm......
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
His intended course of action is a waste of time and resources. The only recourse is through the grievance process and the only remedy is financial.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I called the hotline on an issue involving our former center manager. The center manager did end up losing his job but not as a result of my phone call. Sadly I read in the paper where his beloved BMW is being auctioned off to satisfy a garagemen's lien.
