Next Contract vote...

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by mainebrown, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. mainebrown

    mainebrown Member

    The union should bring in iPads and make teamsters vote, we all know how ups does this for their survey. We can get a near 100% vote if teamsters would vote at work, before or after a PCM.
     
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  2. Kanovic

    Kanovic My job is fun

    Vote no
     
  3. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    @rod can barley use his flip phone and you epect him to be able to opertae an iPad.
     
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    I've got an iPhone 8 and an iPad and a PC. I is connected to porn 24/7.
     
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  5. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    You part of the #MeToo generation that can't be bothered to pick up a phone or click an internet page to vote?

    You want it brought to you?

    We're all doomed!
     
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  6. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

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  7. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    What on God's green earth makes you think the union wants a higher participation rate?

    The union (meaning the leadership) got exactly what it wanted except in a very few locals!
     
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  8. dupa

    dupa On-Road Integrated Optimization and Navigation.

    whats funny is you assume they want a high turn out
     
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    How would you "make" them vote ?



    If you are being paid to do it.... why not take a company survey ?



    It's bad enough, that people couldn't mark a ballot and put the pre-paid envelope

    in the mailbox. Now, the IBT made it easier with the online convenience....


    And people still complain.



    The IBT made it so easy.

    But yet, the members dropped the ball by not voting.


    The company knows it's employee's.

    Afraid of management.... and their own shadow.



    -Bug-
     
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  10. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    Why do you think this is so?

    Couldn't be because there are very, very few who honestly believe the union has their backs?

    BUG, you can dance around the issue all night or keep your head buried in the sand. It still does not change the fact that there is a large number of union members who believe the IBT is in bed with the company and would sell them out if it kept the IBT in the good graces of the company.

    Just saying!
     
  11. Brownsocks

    Brownsocks Just a dog

    Next vote will probably have even worse turnout.
    The stupidest thing the Teamsters ever did was tell all of us who voted that our vote is irrelevant.

    I am so looking forward to 2021 and finding a good Teamsters Presidential candidate who I can support. Hint: It won't be Hall.
     
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  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Your vote is only irrelevant if the majority of the membership doesn't care enough to even bother to vote.
     
  13. brownIEman

    brownIEman Well-Known Member

    Nice, get the company to pay the membership to vote on the clock. Then you could claim difficulty making a decision and drag it out for 20 minutes or so like certain folks do for the ERI... I'm sure the company would have no problem with that.
    One question, if the company is paying for folks to vote, would you be cool with the pcm be a vote Yes propaganda speech before they go into the polls?
     
  14. Crosscutters

    Crosscutters New Member

    This! The next turnout will have no higher than a 33% turnout no matter how easy it is to vote. When the union seems almost happy they were able to push through a contract, one that had more vote against than for mind you, one has to get the feeling of why should I even care. It’s obvious the union didn’t.
     
  15. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    You do realize that is why the contract got pushed through, don't you?

    Because too many didn't even care enough to vote.
     
  16. Brownsocks

    Brownsocks Just a dog

    You do realize that it is a :censored2:ing travesty that a non vote is counted as a yes?
     
  17. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Been that way for 25 years.

    And before that, that is exactly how the voting on contracts worked. Needed a 2/3 majority to turn it down.

    Nobody bitched about it until this year.
     
  18. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    How many presidential elections do you recall that the candidate that received the most votes lost?

    I remember more than one.
     
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    How is a non-vote.... counted as a yes vote ?
     
  20. Brownsocks

    Brownsocks Just a dog

    Because the default for not passing the magic 50% turn out is Yes unless 2/3 of those voting reject. The 56% of those that didn't vote sealed the fate of the 54% that voted no.
    The Teamsters said this is because the 50,000+ that voted no isnt enough leverage to get a better deal? I call bull:censored2:.
    It was not last and final and UPS would be royally screwed if 50,000 of us were to strike. Those that didnt vote were for all intensive purposes yes votes by default.