A NO vote will cancel out someone's YES vote.
A NON Vote allows someone's yes vote to exist.
Fairly simple concept….
It was not last and final and UPS would be royally screwed if 50,000 of us were to strike.
To be fair you guys are skewing participants counts by including part timers and 0-2 year employees.
I’d be interested to see the vote percentage participation broken down by job classification.
The union should bring in iPads and make teamsters vote, we all know how ups does this for their survey. We can get a near 100% vote if teamsters would vote at work, before or after a PCM.
24% or about 1/4 of the eligible membership. Do the math. A few percent more on both sides (3.4% total) and then the union would've had to go back to the table. The company was waiting there already.This is only 1/5 of the membership, or 20%
Nowhere near enough to "get a better deal."
What do you expect from a bargaining unit that is 65% transient part time employees, a classification that has been sold down the river for the last 20 years???
How would you "make" them vote ?
If you are being paid to do it.... why not take a company survey ?
It's bad enough, that people couldn't mark a ballot and put the pre-paid envelope
in the mailbox. Now, the IBT made it easier with the online convenience....
And people still complain.
The IBT made it so easy.
But yet, the members dropped the ball by not voting.
The company knows it's employee's.
Afraid of management.... and their own shadow.
I see where back on the whole arguement of the imposed contract crap, it's over Hoffa will be gone and hopefully better days ahead. His legacy is tarnished and the Teamsters only gave more leverage to the company then to its members. Fin
....and/or amend the IBT Constitution at the next Convention in 2021 to reflect the reality of the transient part time work force that comprises 65% of our membership at UPS???No we're not.
We are on the whole members not voting issue.
And this can come into play in 5 years no matter who replaces Hoffa.
Even if the "new" leader does not agree with the contract, UPS can force a vote on it, and the IBT Constitution is not changing.
The contract will be enforced if we cannot get enough people to vote.
Start early. Get people informed. Get people involved. Get people to vote.
....and/or amend the IBT Constitution at the next Convention in 2021 to reflect the reality of the transient part time work force that comprises 65% of our membership at UPS???
What members, from what craft or contract, does the ridiculous, aniquated, 50%/two-thirds rule "accommodate"???I seriously doubt the elected delegates would support an amendment, just to
accommodate UPS Teamsters. And how many delegates are even from UPS ?
What members, from what craft or contract, does the ridiculous, aniquated, 50%/two-thirds rule "accommodate" ?
....a rule originally ill conceived during the dark, organized crime era of the Teamsters, that has already been watered down once, during a previous "reform era" in the 1990's.
Could it be the rule isn't designed to serve the membership at all, rather a failed Negotiating Committe and IBT EBoard ?